Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

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roob
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Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by roob »

I just played on the [MRS] =ABC=, running Operation Barracuda. I was in the Attack Huey and 30 mins in-game I had one guy trying to blow me up with C4.
As the experienced player I am, I've been in this situation before (which did not end well), and blew the guy up. Punished (of course, but it's obviously either that or 20 mins of waiting).
Next time I return I see him loading up a HAT missile. Punished. Then a friend of his joins in trying to ram me with a regular huey. This goes on for a while 'til I eventually see no other option than to kill them both, lose the huey because of a ban and quit the game.


Can you please consider making it impossible to TK someone in a jet/heli with any special kits?

The names are _________ (or something like that) and some guy that _________.

I'm sure a lot of you agree?
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Cheditor
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Cheditor »

Well you shouldnt really resort to TK them back, it just makes it worse in my experience, the problem with this is sometimes (despite what i just said) a tk is the only thing to save you, if a attk heuy is just raping the only spawn you got then you have to take him out (obviously if there are no admin on)
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TheLean
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by TheLean »

Cheditor wrote:Well you shouldnt really resort to TK them back, it just makes it worse in my experience, the problem with this is sometimes (despite what i just said) a tk is the only thing to save you, if a attk heuy is just raping the only spawn you got then you have to take him out (obviously if there are no admin on)
Well, if we punish the chopper attacking the spawn he will soon be kicked anyway.

I dont think you understand roobs post. He had no choice but to TK the other dudes, since otherwise they would have killed his chopper. I would have done the same thing.

+1 to the idea of the Original poster. I have been waiting for Choppers for 20 minutes on qwai then get C4:ed by some ******* when i take off. That really makes me so angry i literrally wants to kill that person which is of course bad for my bloodpressure.
Rudd
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Rudd »

Just leave server, inform relevant server operator. Less grief for everyone.
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Wicca
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Wicca »

Cant you just vote kick?

Problem is alot of the time not everyone actually press page up... But ignores it.

I wish you didnt need that many votes.
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Tim270
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Tim270 »

Hmmm, it would be cool to have some form of the dome of death, but rather the dome of life around the carrier, in which people cannot be tked. How you would code that is beyond me as making the pilot kits have much more health is not going to happen etc.
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roob
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by roob »

TheLean wrote: I dont think you understand roobs post. He had no choice but to TK the other dudes, since otherwise they would have killed his chopper. I would have done the same thing.
Exactly.
I did ignore that C4 one time, and as he was in my squad he said "Bye bye" over the voip, blew me up in mid-air and then left the server. Never again!

Tim270 wrote:Hmmm, it would be cool to have some form of the dome of death, but rather the dome of life around the carrier, in which people cannot be tked.
A fine idea... but that will only help against small arms and rockets/missiles. A C4 will, along with the chopper, eventually leave this dome :neutral:
It would be better than nothing though...
Cheditor
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Cheditor »

Ok roob by that last post you seem to be saying he planted C4 said bye bye then left and thats it, but from your first post it seems he constantly harrased you. Also The Lean not all servers have a punish system. One server i was on, kashan 64, guy jumped in a tank and started shelling us from the main road outside US main, we had no way of doing a kick vote and there was no punishment system, we blew him up with a SRAW in the end.
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Tonnie
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Tonnie »

Just dont retaliate.... simple.. report to admin or servers host and they will get a ban easy

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roob
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by roob »

Cheditor wrote:Ok roob by that last post you seem to be saying he planted C4 said bye bye then left and thats it, but from your first post it seems he constantly harrased you.
That was a completely diffrerent guy that blew me up. That was the first time I got blown up by C4, and it will remain that way! ;)

As for the admins... Yeah well if they're on the can obviously do something. They rarely are when people are doing this, even so they leave faster than light and to send screenshots proving you got hatted or c4ed isn't really an option :S Kind of hard to prove...

When you hear the *beep beep* and a guy running away from your chopper, I doubt most people even start typing "!report "nick" putting C4 on my precious 20-minute chopper, please kick him!". I we all know how it will end :P
Alex6714
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Alex6714 »

Sometimes retaliation is the only thing you can do somethimes though. If its between me tking a guy or a 20 min asset as rare as an attack heli for example, I am going to stop him by whatever means form TKing me, then get an admin.
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myles
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by myles »

this mod is about reality you cant take tk away from jets it would make the game look so stupid.
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roob
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by roob »

myles wrote:this mod is about reality you cant take tk away from jets it would make the game look so stupid.
I understand it's title.
But honestly I have never witnessed someone hatting or C4ing a jet or heli by mistake. Never.
(I'm not even gonna try imagining someone TKing with C4 because they thought it was the enemy)

I've been playing since 0.3, which is like 3 years now? As I see it, there's no reality loss in not being able to TK a friendly jet/heli with those weapons.
Rissien
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Rissien »

Then theres the people on Kashan who wait untill the jets spawn just to get on the aa and waste both. Some people will do it even with admins on, they just leave before we even have the chance to type out the ban.
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Snazz
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Snazz »

Yeah if this is possible I'd like it, but I'm guessing it isn't.
myles wrote:this mod is about reality you cant take tk away from jets it would make the game look so stupid.
If you're concerned about jets dropping bombs less cautiously, the bombs already TK even when FF is off. But this is not about removing the incidents where friendly aircraft accidentally attack their own troops on the ground.

The thread is about somehow stopping malicious players from team killing friendly aircraft on the airfield/carrier.

If someone honestly accidentally throws C4 on a friendly aircraft and then blows it up, they're not going to go 'that's stupid' if it doesn't TK the pilot and/or passengers. They'd be happy that their ridiculous mistake hasn't team killed and pissed off others.
Antonious_Bloc
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Antonious_Bloc »

I agree with the anti-TKing idea. That kind of thing is frustrating for the entire team, not just the pilot.
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Qwerty1216
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by Qwerty1216 »

Yeah i wouldnt mind this because the other day on Op. Barracuda i had someone steal 1 Attack Huey from my squadmate, blow me up in my Attack Huey with hydra's, and then crash his Attack Huey on purpose. :\
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McBumLuv
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by McBumLuv »

myles wrote:this mod is about reality you cant take tk away from jets it would make the game look so stupid.
Yet surviving with a gaping bullet hole in your head, equipping helicopter pilots with parachutes and no other equipment if they need to bail, and leaving pilots who cost more to train than the planes they fly without anything to defend themselves with for the same reason (to avoid TKs) is?

Not saying that this suggestion should happen, but if the lack of faith in server admins is so low that it's the only reason to avoid equipping pilots properly and realistically, then I'd prefer being unable to TK them than leaving them like so.

My 2 cents.
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LudacrisKill
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by LudacrisKill »

[R-DEV]tonnie15 wrote:report to admin or servers host and they will get a ban easy
Wish this was true...

Was on a server where admins warned a guys after TKing us in an apc even after the admin said the guy was doing similair stuff earlier on.

Then next map kashan, friend lands Frogfoot and got killed by the big AA in main by the same guy and the admin only kicks...

These sort of people that just do it over and over again should be banned over and over again!
snooggums
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Re: Remove the ability to TK a jet/heli

Post by snooggums »

McLuv wrote:Yet surviving with a gaping bullet hole in your head, equipping helicopter pilots with parachutes and no other equipment if they need to bail, and leaving pilots who cost more to train than the planes they fly without anything to defend themselves with for the same reason (to avoid TKs) is?

Not saying that this suggestion should happen, but if the lack of faith in server admins is so low that it's the only reason to avoid equipping pilots properly and realistically, then I'd prefer being unable to TK them than leaving them like so.

My 2 cents.
The removal of the pilot weapon had nothing to do with tking for vehicles.
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