Make grapling hook a requestable kit.

[goguapsy]

So I was sitting here typing at the Beta forum and I thought: why does anyone can have a grapling hook?

IRL, I believe, not every soldier can climb rope easily as in PR. Therefore I suggest this:

-Make grapling hooks (Rifleman Specialist) a requestable kit, like 3 or 4 for each team with the same restrictions as the other specialized kits.
This would make a squad become more "elite", being able to climb a rope with all that equipment...

AND/OR

-Make climbing a rope slower and/or stamina using. Ropes are not easy to climb at all I believe... specially with all that equipment soldiers carry (and the lack of fitness of insurgents).

What do you guys think?



ALSO, I would really like grapling hooks could be used in a more "horizontal" montion (as in, you can use to rope to move over a hill that is too steep for you to move through it (you slide in BF2), you know? Perhaps it could be allied with some "grapling sensor" as in a rope will slide down the hill if it isn't properly placed (like, over a wall or beyond a ledge or something) 'cuz ropes don't "glue" to the ground.


So, any remarks?

Cheers!

[arjan]

So I was sitting here typing at the Beta forum and I thought: why does anyone can have a grapling hook?

IRL, I believe, not every soldier can climb rope easily as in PR. Therefore I suggest this:

-Make grapling hooks (Rifleman Specialist) a requestable kit, like 3 or 4 for each team with the same restrictions as the other specialized kits.
This would make a squad become more "elite", being able to climb a rope with all that equipment...

AND/OR

-Make climbing a rope slower and/or stamina using. Ropes are not easy to climb at all I believe... specially with all that equipment soldiers carry (and the lack of fitness of insurgents).

What do you guys think?


I dont know mate, but climbing ropes aint hard
Alos makeing them more elite aint a good argument



ALSO, I would really like grapling hooks could be used in a more "horizontal" montion (as in, you can use to rope to move over a hill that is too steep for you to move through it (you slide in BF2), you know? Perhaps it could be allied with some "grapling sensor" as in a rope will slide down the hill if it isn't properly placed (like, over a wall or beyond a ledge or something) 'cuz ropes don't "glue" to the ground.

Ropes can only be used on statics

So, any remarks?

Cheers!

Answers in bold

[Nebsif]

Im against that unless they buff the kit, like replacing the breaching slug with buckshot, or tripflares with flashbangz, I dont see much ppl taking specialist, its completely useless on some maps, so why make it limited anyway? (Tripflares = fail!)

[goguapsy]

Answers in bold

Correct me if I'm wrong, but soldiers do carry a lot of equipments right?

Also, what I meant "elite" would simply mean "that squad can climb ropes" but it would also mean that not everyone could climb it...

And to what Nebsif said, Every Map has a place to use a grappling hook.

(I'm so very deep... in words...)

[hiberNative]

nah i want more ropes for the masses. always fun to use, so don't limit fun just for the sake of it.

[Zimmer]

Ropes are a metaphor for getting yourself up the Y axis, for example, a person can climb a bf2 soldier can not, a soldier can just smash the doors and get on a higher level in a house, a BF2 soldier can not do that unless the house is designed to get in.

[rampo]

My opinnions don't make them requestable! Some people would just start griefing them leaving suads that realy need some help whit roofs

[Wilkinson]

Pointless. Good Suggestion, but either way the rope is a rope. I'm sure you could even make a make-shift rope if you had to.

[scope]

I don't understand why people think the kit is useless. Everymap has doors that need breached or buildings that can be climbed. So what if it doesn't have a super leet scope or super spam grenades...learn to use a red dot.

[Gore]

Ropes are a metaphor for getting yourself up the Y axis, for example, a person can climb a bf2 soldier can not, a soldier can just smash the doors and get on a higher level in a house, a BF2 soldier can not do that unless the house is designed to get in.

This^^ And first the grenadier sights was changed so everyone can 1337 them, don't even think about doing that to the hook.

[abbadon101]

The hook is also to symbolize other equipment soldiers carry, like ladders (used by british troops in building assaults) which can be used faster than a rope could be.

IMHO the rope is fine, needs no change.

[BogusBoo]

Come on guys, i mean in real life you would'nt see grapples in *every* squad....i would like them to become limited kits if you ask me.

[abbadon101]

No but IRL you can climb over a 10 foot wall with 2 people and you dont need a rope.

[tiki-dog]

I'm sure the soldier TRAIN with weights in their backs so they can climb ropes very well.

Mainly the specialists.

[rampo]

I'm sure the soldier TRAIN with weights in their backs so they can climb ropes very well.

Mainly the specialists.

Never heard about people climing ropes whit weights but i cant seem to ignore but u have a remarcably simular avatar to someone else on the forums