Language and squads

[nicoX]

Now with the introduction of the German forces, we see squads names GER Inf... more than ever. And this time it's a problem because of the huge german player base.
But not only there, it's similar with Finland, Russian...
I can accepts clan squads, but I don't know why you want to have German speaking squads in an international game, where you yourself probably speak English well.

It would be OK if you as a squad leader didn't speak English. But taking up squad space, when you only can have 9 squads. And it just doesn't look good and welcoming to enter a Finish or German server where get the feeling you are not welcomed.
I think this is just bad for the server itself.

[Cpt.Kawakowitsch]

I second that. But it is like this ever since...

[martov]

people feel more comfortable speaking their native language rather than English, I myself feel more comfortable by doing so.

[Fockzhound]

I suggest you join and pretend to be a German with a speech impediment, the impediment being your complete lack of the German. Just go on tone of speech. You'll be fine, how hard could it be?

shh, but what ever you do, do not mention the war!

[spawncaptain]

shh, but what ever you do, do not mention the war!

But you started it!

[Alselius]

Completely agreed. The worst thing is that because I live in eastern europe I have a low ping on german and finish servers only. And it is really hard to make a squad of 6 english-speaking people there. When I join UK servers my ping is already quite high.
And the worst thing is that there's really no one to blame here.

[Spec]

It's one thing to have german squads on a german server - but they really don't belong into an UK server imo. There's enough german servers for those who aren't good at english.

[[MoL]jaVi]

The squad name doesnt matter, its all up to the SL and his team, for me and my guys we usually name the squad "MoL GER", to indicate our clan (people who know us maybe wanna join) and GER so people will know our native and preferred language, BUT if sumone joins without any german knowledge I as SL will talk in english and the rest of the team will try as well

But even if you join an english speaking squad it will be hard sometimes if either the Brits are speaking in their own deep british dialect or e.g. germans "invent" their own english words or pronounce it in their funny way

[Arnoldio]

No problem on servers that are german based and such.

But on servers with UK it should be prohibited to an extent.

[raw157]

No problem on servers that are german based and such.

But on servers with UK it should be prohibited to an extent.

You can't prohibit someone from starting a squad just because they don't speak English...
I think that at best the people speaking the language not native to the server, should try and condense into a squad or two (if they don't know the native language), or just jump in a squad and become more culturally diverse.

[gaurd502]

Well the same can be said for English, its an international game with international players, telling people they have to speak English just doesn't seem right for a public game.

[ebevan91]

Well the same can be said for English, its an international game with international players, telling people they have to speak English just doesn't seem right for a public game.

Well, the people who only know English should stick to US or UK servers, and the people who really don't know English should stick to a server that is closer to their country.

[Jaberwo]

Although my English grades are quite good, (I bet I'll make a spelling mistake in this post now:mrgreen
I still prefer to speak German, just because my play will be better.
The communication is faster and more precise.

Naturally I haven't really noticed this problem myself, but is it realy that great an issue?

Okay there might be these moments when you have 9 squads, all more or less not suitable for what you want to do and one of them are three Germans. But I bet there will be also a locked two men clan-squad and a one man "pwnage!!1" squad.

And gaurd502 has a point, you should consider yourself happy to be a native speaker of the world language.

[Spec]

Allowing all languages and it's a good intention, but it's impractical to have non-english squads on an english server when there ARE more suitable servers available. There's a difference between player speaking a language that only few people in PR speak, and player speaking a language with multiple populated servers in that language available. There's what? Usually at least three, right now even more, german servers around, well populated but not all full. There's really no need to go into an english server and create a german speaking squad there - unless of course, the squad is able to adapt when needed (like already said, speak english when an english speaking player joins), but it's a bit hard to figure out for an english speaking player that this "GER INF" squad will be speaking english when he joins, and many people would feel uncomfortable joining in there and making them all speak english.

@Jaberwo: Just to clarify, other locked two-man clan squads etc. are just as much of a problem. Sometimes I do find myself looking at a squad list though, and even though there's nine squads, none of them seem worth joining, even in some of the better servers.

[HeXeY]

I kiiiiiinda agree, at least when there's an UK based server, and there's, say 4 squads that have RUS, GER or whatever in the name. I wouldn't necissarily say this is something the admins should prevent, but rather those who make such squads should try and avoid it.

Worst thing tho is something I saw today, a clan joined a server (not mentioning any names), and made two squads, locked both, a 4-man squad, and a 2-man squad... why? They did have different "tasks", one being tank and the other being inf, but couldn't have just have split up on TS or whatever they use... they probably had their reasons, but still. (And the server rules clearly said no locked squads, but that's a different story)

Also, am I the only one felling "uncomfortable" speaking my native language in PR?
When I got into PR there was few Norwegian speakers, so I spoke English, and I've stuck with that, no speaking Norwegian is weird for me, especially seeing as my dialect can be hard to understand for some Norwegians xD

[Spec]

Also, am I the only one felling "uncomfortable" speaking my native language in PR?

heh. I normally avoid speaking german as well. I dunno, native speakers tend to be alot more "funny", even when it's not really fitting. People tend to be more polite and thoughtful as well when they're not speaking their native language, but that might be just my impression.

[Killer2354]

well the funny thing was that i joined a squad where most of the guys spoke russian so i had to keep my talking limited because of the general consences i gathered was that i could only report contacts like- Striker north-east. So that round of insurgency was interesting...

[boilerrat]

It's not really an issue until there are like 2+ squads on a UK / US English server.

[Alselius]

If you join mid-game then there often is one or two squads that use voip and speak english, but they're usually full, then there's bound to be a german squad, then one or two armor squads, a heli squad... And there you go - either join the half-empty german squad and not understand anything or start your own squad and hope someone will join.
Can't really prohibit the use of languages other than english but it would be good if the players themself notice the problem.

[jerkzilla]

I don't think "language squads" are a problem. If someone makes a German or French squad and it gets 4 to 6 people (and they often do) theres no issue in terms of player numbers as they take up just as many as any other infantry or armor squad. And most of the time, the squadleader will speak at least some English to communicate with other squads.

Chances are, people speak their native language better than English, ergo they're going to communicate better between themselves.

I've only ever spoken Romanian in game when a friend played PR for a few rounds 8 or so months ago. Other than him, the one or two Romanians I've seen in game seemed to be douchebags and not worth squadding up with...