[Vehicle] CH-53A Heavy-Lift Helicopter WIP

[Shovel]

I admit, I do play CoD:MW2 from time to time, and I am fan of the Pavelow. No, I am not some nearsighted idiot who learned about the helicopter through the game, I knew about it well before, and I have noticed that is is misrepresented in the game.

SO....I decided to develop one for BF2. The MH-53 is the one represented in the game, but it was recently retired because of production costs. But the CH-53 is still in use by the USMC as a heavy lift/transport helicopter.

Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I originally altered the asset from AIX, and with every update it has become different. I have NO idea how to texture models, even though i know that i have to paint a color layer and a shininess layer and etc., but I do not know how to do this.

Also, the Heli still has that BF2 "vanillaness" that makes it slow, startup in 4 seconds, among others. I read somewhere that it is comparable to the Chinook, and I need to know how I could give it the same control and handling as it.

And see you on the Battlefield Soldier!

[Shovel]

Photos coming soon so plz don't delete! Plzz!

[Hauteclocque]

I originally altered the asset from AIX

What do you mean ?

[AquaticPenguin]

I originally altered the asset from AIX, and with every update it has become different.

Tread carefully, you'll need to explain a bit more about how you used the AIX asset otherwise I'll consider this plagiarism.

[Shovel]

im really just using the aix one for reference, but im not really getting anywhere. i have not used the aix model. i should really be looking for a tutorial for creating a helicopter, because i cant find one anywhere. my first post is an overstatement, i have not real helicopter, i am just playing around with the settings on others.

[Hauteclocque]

I originally altered the asset from AIX, and with every update it has become different. I have NO idea how to texture models, even though i know that i have to paint a color layer and a shininess layer and etc., but I do not know how to do this.

im really just using the aix one for reference, but im not really getting anywhere. i have not used the aix model

Erm, my English isn't the best one, but there is something odd between the two posts...

I prefer not to know what you wanted to do.

If you don't know how to model a chopper, I believe you don't have modeling skills.
Get 3DSMAX and learn on weapons first

[Rhino]

Good luck with making this BUT, if we see any use of another mods/games model (being more than just use for reference) then there is no chance we will be using your model and the appropriate action will be taken against you.

[Eddie Baker]

CH-53A is no longer in service, and the CH-53D Sea Stallion is now in only one medium lift squadron, IIRC. For heavy lift the Marines use the CH-53E Super Stallion, which is a very similar airframe with 3 engines and a different rotor. An older Sea Stallion / Pave Low variant might not be a good base to start with.

Also, I have never heard about any "fancy remote weapons station" being adopted or even for use on the Marine Super Stallions. GAU-21 (M3M) and/or GAU-16 (M2 aircraft pintle mount variant) on the ramp and in the side doors is the usual weapons loadout.

[Shovel]

Okay i'm modeling mine in 3ds max 2011. Sorry about the AIX confusion. I am not good at wording things.

[Rhino]

max 2011.... read this...

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f388-p ... ssets.html

[Shovel]

Where can you buy Max 9?
I'm a student who benefits from the free Autodesk software for students program.

[BloodBane611]

You can't get Max 9 through the student download program, you'll have to source it on your own. If you can't find a copy, don't let that stop you, it's still worth learning to model one accurately, and depending on the levels of errors in the backport it may still be usable

At worst, it's a very good learning experience.

[HangMan_]

Can we get a picture of any work you've already done on this heli? If you do successfully make a CH-53E i will have your babies The AIX model is an MH-53J by the way, and is retired.

[Shovel]

Right now i am restarting because I want to souce accurate dimension photos and I broke my external hard drive.

[HangMan_]

No worries, if you need any help pm me

[Shovel]

Ya, to everyone out there: don't knock you're hard drive off of a table. Ever. Not even for fun.

[BloodBane611]

I have a very complete set of very high resolution reference pics of a USN MH-53E Sea Dragon - the Navy's identical twin brother to the CH-53E.

You can get a zip file with them here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10420527/MH-53E.rar


The differences between the two aircraft are below.

According to the Wikipedia entry:

It has enlarged sponsons to provide substantially greater fuel storage and endurance. It also retained the in-flight refueling probe, and could be fitted with up to seven 300 US gallon (1,136 liter) ferry tanks internally. The MH-53E digital flight-control system includes features specifically designed to help tow minesweeping gear

From interview with a USN pilot (here: Korea-stationed helicopter squadron touch down in Iwakuni for vertical replenishment training )

The aircraft used for the training was an MH-53E Sea Dragon, which is similar to the CH-53E Super Stallion used in the Marine Corps.

The main difference is that the CH-53 is able to drop its fuel tanks and has dual lift points, whereas the MH-53E?s fuel tanks are attached to the aircraft and only has a single lift point, said Lt. Troy Kelly, helicopter aircraft commander for HM-14 Det. 1.

In short, these should be very suitable for references if you're looking to model the CH-53E. Only problem is I wasn't really thinking straight when I was at fleet week getting these pictures, and didn't get very good front/side overview shots

On the other hand, I have extremely good high-res shots covering the most of the instrument panel, as well as really good shots from the back, and some reasonably decent side and front (oblique) shots.

[Shovel]

Thanks! I will definetly get started! As I will not have a very nice result for a few weeks, you can lock or delete this thread, I may bring it up later in time.

[Wakain]

you can lock or delete this

no need, just let it die and bump it when ready. Oh and when bumping: edit the first post with booty

[Eddie Baker]

Thanks! I will definetly get started! As I will not have a very nice result for a few weeks, you can lock or delete this thread, I may bring it up later in time.

Also check the US Navy and US Marine Corps websites' photo galleries. They have tons of *very* high-res images to work with and are constantly updated. CH-53Es are pulling a lot of the weight in aid to Pakistan, so new pics of them can be seen almost daily, as of late.

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