Fuel

Archangel · Post by **Archangel** » 2004-10-12 20:09

This is the ultimate realism mod ... this is the Ultimate factor in all vehicles, how long can they move. or is this not going to be possible unless Truama implements this (which is nearly 100% not going to show up). But if possible would this be put into the mod(i think this would turn ppl away if its to short of a time)

Hoss · Post by **Hoss** » 2004-10-12 21:19

LOL probably wouldn't have any effect on me as I die way to fast to have to worry about running out of fuel

I've seen other discussions with other mods about fuel. It's a tough call. Seeing and the games are not "real time" it's difficult to think of how fuel could play a role, and not make you keep turning back every 2 seconds toward home base. Figure at an average Public DC server, how long does a jet really last anyway? Tanks, while they last a bit longer, are gone and re-spawned quite often as well.

I do agree that it most likley would turn more people away then it would draw them in.

Anti-}{ero · Post by **Anti-}{ero** » 2004-10-13 06:49

...I gotta say that a fuel system would add to your "REALISM" scale...i mean i think that there should be a fuel gage incorperated. I mean yes i know that planes and tanks dont last long, but i mean atleast add a little somthing. Like say the longest you can be in a heli is 10 minutes. Even tho its not gonna really affect most people, it would still be good to say, use the heli for 8 minutes, then land it and ditch it and another teamate gets it with only 2 minutes of fuel left. he could be a n00b and not look at that guage and go fly for his 2 minutes and then run out of fuel, or he can be smart and make sure that in every vehicle he gets in out on the battlefield, he checks the guages. That would always have that pilot staring at how long he has and how long its gonna take him to get back with these new huge maps.

Even tho it may be useless most of the time, it would still add that little dab of realness. I mean, it would be cool to add it for the beta testers and for the first release....then see how the comunity responds and then fix it if people hate it.

Just what i think...

bleachy · Post by **bleachy** » 2004-10-16 05:58

This is really a tough call.

On the one hand, if done right, it could add a whole, fun, new element to the game, but if improperly designed, it could turn people off from the mod.

Echo4Golf · Post by **Echo4Golf** » 2004-10-17 15:58

I almost say: the more people you turn off, the better. But a mod is no fun if noone plays either. I would still like to turn away the cry babies and the teams of 30 with 15 of them as snipers. (ala Joint Operations)

Guess I'm undecided.

FrostPaw · Post by **FrostPaw** » 2004-10-19 10:12

Well considering the battles are fought across a few square miles and the average military vehicle is capable of running for at minimum 2hours if you made it realistic which is the whole argument nobody would ever run out of fuel because most games only last 30minutes and thats assuming as already mentioned you stay alive the entire game.

Anotherwords it would be fake realism and thus counter productive to the game and the developers time. We are governed by ammunition and damage, I think thats plenty to recharge on and at least is more real then a fuel tank for 5 minutes play.

Echo4Golf · Post by **Echo4Golf** » 2004-10-19 12:19

Point well spoken and thought out. I agree and believe the fuel concept to be a waste of time and energy that could go towards something more worth while to the game.

Buckshee=RTY= · Post by **Buckshee=RTY=** » 2005-07-09 23:31

If you wanted to go to the reality extreme (which outsiders would expect) on fuel consumption, you would have to take into account factors of air travel that include low level flight burns fuel faster that high level flight, and a fully laden aircraft will burn fuel quicker than one with its ordnance spent - and then compensate for this when you 'magically' rearm while flying at 200feet above an airbase at 400knots!! (there's another issue to address

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The best thing is to probably leave it as it is, as mentioned earlier, the rounds don't last long enough for fuel consumption to be an issue...it would be a big can of worms if you were to try to implement this

And who would pay for it?? You would all be flat broke if the vehicles were filled up in UK!!

Stadler · Post by **Stadler** » 2005-07-09 23:43

It would most likely turn people than attract, especially with Gas prices climbing!

CobraPhantom · Post by **CobraPhantom** » 2005-07-10 02:36

It would be interesting, but then the maps would have to be hundreds of miles long for it to actually be an annoyance to pilots. Its a good idea, but unrealistic since jets take off of airfields within the relatively small maps(bf2) compared to actual real life maps. Great idea nonetheless, pretty much a gameplay over realism battle for the idea.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-07-10 02:38

well it would effect tanks and other land vehicles, the MPG on an M1A2 cant be great, same thing with the HMMWVs, youd need lots of logistics, but thinking about it i think that stuff belongs more in a game like rise of nations or another RTS game.

TerribleOne · Post by **TerribleOne** » 2005-07-10 02:46

I dont think its a good idea tbh. All vehicles last a pretty long time considering they wil be fully fueled up especially planes,choppers and tanks.

bad idea imo but it depends how it was implemented.

Ugly Duck · Post by **Ugly Duck** » 2005-07-10 04:18

Doesn't sound to practical for a game like BF2, or all that realistic to be completely honest. Sure and M1 may not get good MPG, but it's definately going to last through a battle, other wise it wouldn't be in service. Battles in BF2 are too short, and take place in a very small space(relative to real life battles). The only way fuel might impact game play is in the jets after burners. The pool should be larger, but also not re-fill. Then you'd have to land and "re-fuel" your jet. But other than that I doubt it would make much sense to have it in game.

keef_haggerd · Post by **keef_haggerd** » 2005-07-10 05:05

i agree with ugly duck, the whole afterburners thing good call. and i think that is as far as fuel should be brought into this mod.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-07-10 05:07

yeah id go for that, but it has to last pretty long

Post by **Paladin-X** » 2005-07-10 05:11

It would probably be more worth it for tourneys like 21st Century Warfare. Doesn't their maps last all day or something?

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2005-07-10 05:14

dunno bout that but i guess if your playing a game with a few thousand tickets then fuel would work, but really no one lasts that long anyway, even if fuel was there i doubt it would come into effect very often except in the case of fighters, and if you got into fuel you might as well get into food haha, imagine just siting in the back of a bradley and taking out an MRE, theres some extremes that reality just doesnt have to reach.