silensed guns?

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2007-10-03 04:01

hey PR team

i like very much PR mod

and i like to use pistols.. on basrah!!

but,.. the pistol can be hear but a soldiers by 2 KM!!!!!! (lie)

on 0.7.. can u add silensed pistols?

or machineguns / snipèrs

PlayPR! · Post by **PlayPR!** » 2007-10-03 04:11

Wait wait wait.... I can sorta understand Pistols, but MGs?...

TexLax · Post by **TexLax** » 2007-10-03 04:15

short answer, no

this realism mod, the being able to hear the gun from 2 km away is the engine.

(do search too)

DarkTalon · Post by **DarkTalon** » 2007-10-03 04:20

the spelling of the thread title really bothers me for some reason, if you want people to take your suggestion seriously, you should at least put some time into your posts.

i think maybe spec ops and snipers should get silenced pistols (no matter how cliche) they probably do use them in reality.

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-10-03 04:52

dont blame him , his main language is spanish , not english.

i dont know where , but i saw a SAW(

) with optics and a litle tube in the cannon dont think that is a supressor , maybe it was a silenced saw?

SethLive! · Post by **SethLive!** » 2007-10-03 05:07

in the wise words of kenwayy

short answer: no
long answer: hell no

Hardtman · Post by **Hardtman** » 2007-10-03 08:34

The silencer originally is only used to protect the user from deafening/blinding when firing the weapon inside buildings.That the enemy can't hear you is just a favorable side-effect.

When you want a silencer because you don't want the enemy to hear you, then you need to have sub-sonic bullets also, and so lose much stopping power.

So I am quite sure that in a direct combat situation in the open a soldier would choose more power over a silencer nine out of ten times.
And also most "pistol-wielders" aren't issued silencers in the first place, since those things aren't free either.

element365 · Post by **element365** » 2007-10-03 08:44

I thought it was called a suppressor. Since it doesn't actually silence the gun...

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2007-10-03 08:54

element365 wrote:I thought it was called a suppressor. Since it doesn't actually silence the gun...

Agreed.

ZephyrDraevyn · Post by **ZephyrDraevyn** » 2007-10-03 09:05

Silenced machinegun / sniper rifle....

HHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

Sniper would lose range and accuracy because of the can... and continued automatic fire through one tends to build up barrel pressures (potentially to a dangerous level) due to the silencer can filling with hot expanding gas.

Hell, we might as well model a silenced Minigun..... :s

No... NO NO NO.

The only reason an MG/Sniper should have some kind of accessory on the barrel is to 'shape' the muzzleblast (and make a pretty in-game special effect when the trigger is pulled) seeing that things like dust-pickup and nitro-cellulose smoke isn't modelled in-game.

-=Rhodesy_77=- · Post by **-=Rhodesy_77=-** » 2007-10-03 12:15

im pretty sure he ment by a mg as in a smg like an mp-5... you could have it as an option like one wep slot have as just an mp-5 without silencer and the nin the next wep slot have one with one... so u can choose between power or stealth...

Raymond.Reiloff · Post by **Raymond.Reiloff** » 2007-10-03 12:46

ZephyrDraevyn wrote:
Hell, we might as well model a silenced Minigun..... :s

here:https://armamentsales.sslpowered.com/photos/albums/userpics/10001/normal_6.jpg

-=Rhodesy_77=- · Post by **-=Rhodesy_77=-** » 2007-10-03 12:49

Raymond.Reiloff wrote:here:https://armamentsales.sslpowered.com/photos/albums/userpics/10001/normal_6.jpg

LOL.... i want it...

Post by **LeadMagnet** » 2007-10-03 13:28

ZephyrDraevyn wrote:Silenced machinegun / sniper rifle....

HHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA

Sniper would lose range and accuracy because of the can... and continued automatic fire through one tends to build up barrel pressures (potentially to a dangerous level) due to the silencer can filling with hot expanding gas.

Maybe with an eastern bloc suppressor (they still use steel wool which disintegrates after 15-20 rounds). For shots under 700yds we routinely mounted suppressors on our DMR's for noise reduction and flash suppression. Both very useful properties. As for MG's, carbines and SMG's I can see but I have only seen a suppressor mounted on a c9 in field trials and not in the actual field.

The other bonus with mounting suppressors on carbines is that I found it actually gave it much better balance once you got used to moving with the additional length of the weapon.

torenico · Post by **torenico** » 2007-10-03 14:59

i mean silensed pistols, M4's / MP5 and snipers..

Post by **bosco_** » 2007-10-03 15:01

This is not Project Special Forces...

Ragni<RangersPL> · Post by **Ragni<RangersPL>** » 2007-10-03 15:06

[R-PUB]bosco wrote:This is not Project Special Forces...

Agree, but there is also Spec Ops kit

Spec Ops is not from special forces?

Post by **OkitaMakoto** » 2007-10-03 15:09

-=Rhodesy_77=- wrote:im pretty sure he ment by a mg as in a smg like an mp-5... you could have it as an option like one wep slot have as just an mp-5 without silencer and the nin the next wep slot have one with one... so u can choose between power or stealth...

Already been talked about in several threads. The issue then, is that they wouldnt be able to share ammo, so effectively, you would have 2(two) 30 round weapons at the ready. Empty one into one guy, dont reload, just switch to the next one. reload after the firefight... see? BIG problem.

Im locking this thread because as said, this isnt Project Special Forces, its been asked many times before, and we will see what the future brings.

If the DEVs think a certain class realistically needs a silenced pistol, then they will get it. But in all honesty guys, Ive NEVER seen much gain in silenced guns in PR or BF2 unless you are sniping, in which case, youd already be far away anyway...

Regardless of my personal input there, Locked.

***EDIT***
Lucky Bosco IBTL

. And his comment gives all the more reason for the lock.

Not for its sarcasm, but for what it points out. This is project reality, we dont need kits with uber leet silencers and such. Because then every player would be the leet man with the mp5, silenced m4, and sniper rifle...

Post by **bosco_** » 2007-10-03 15:09

Does the Spec Op carry M4+Mp5+Sniper rifle?