Idea - Mounted MG on deployable sandbags

[d1sp0sabl3H3r0]

I searched through this forum for quite some time looking for a similar idea with no success, so please accept my apologies if this is redundant.

The idea: Add a mounted MG to the commander deployed sandbags.

Reason behind: Currently, sandbags are used more for blocking entrances to flag control points than for any real defensive purpose. By adding a mounted MG, the commander is truly fortefying the position and assisting his/her team. I don't see this creating a terrible imbalance and fits nicely in the realism aspect of the mod. It would also change how the sandbags are used by the commander and add an element of strategy/tactics to the role and the asset.

Thanks for reading!

[Outlawz7]

Yeah, but then the number of allowed sandbags in an area would have to be reduced, or you'd had dozen MGs stacked up.

[d1sp0sabl3H3r0]

Yeah, but then the number of allowed sandbags in an area would have to be reduced, or you'd had dozen MGs stacked up.

Agreed on that - this would limit the number available. Maybe limit to 2 near a bunker or firebase. Also, the gunner is certainly not invulernable while on the gun.

Perhaps the MG sandbags could be added as a separate menu item on the deployable asset menu, so a commander could place a sandbag or an "armed" sandbag.

[youm0nt]

Maybe one sandbagged machine gun for every 4 or 5 sandbags in an area?

[77SiCaRiO77]

maybe armed sandbags only for SL and only one per squad , and normal sandbags for the comander/SL ?.

[gazzthompson]

maybe armed sandbags only for SL and only one per squad , and normal sandbags for the comander/SL ?.

i like that idea , the squad leader being able to deploy 1 sandbag wall , happens IRL right ? when defending , squads build sandbag cover

[DarkTalon]

maybe have slandered sandbag emplacement- Free
sandbag with MG- 20 tickets?

[Jaymz]

This idea has been in our sights for a long time, since we first made commander assets.

[MrD]

A mounted GPMG like on vehicles for commander laid sandbags would change the face of gaming totally. It would show the importance of building assets and moving methodically across maps. It would greatly increase gaming where objective missions are involved, and increase realism with insurgents maps.

However, theres that nasty game issue with player line of sight and it being lower than the sprites eyes ingame.

[Harrod200]

Would it be possible (& realistic) to have guards similar to the Hummvee's on the static MG's just so it's not simply a case of "Look at me! I'm here! Standing perfectly still with my head poking over the sandbags!" whenever you get on one. That way they might actually be useful assets rather than guaranteed death.

[zardez]

hmm maybe just the crouch function is enough, but i really like this idea, maybe the commander can deploy one sandbag with mounted MG per squad on his/her team. (earlier suggestion just refined)

[Redamare]

HAHA wow i just made a thread with the exact same idea ......... if not on sandbags then how about Weapon Mount Sandbags Sepirate from the Regular Sandbags that could work

[zeidmaan]

A Squad Leader placing a sandbag wall with a mounted gun is the best idea ever. The mapper placed stationary MGs are often a suicide to use but these wouldnt be. If a smart SL puts them in a good spot they could be very useful.

[Ninja2dan]

I like the idea of a weapon emplacement that can be positioned by the commander or in limited supply by a SL. There are several maps that require/recommend the placement of FOB's, and having to tie up assets such as vehicles to defend those positions isn't realistic. In real life I'd be placing crew-served weapons at those locations, and it would be nice to have something similar in this mod.

As for the mortar emplacements, I'm not sure how artillery works in this game engine. In OFP/VBS we developed an artillery simulator that works like the real thing, but we did what was thought impossible and have working towed and self-propelled howitzers, mortars, and even rocket systems. The artillery in BF2 works differently, in that it's not a true ballisticly-fired projectile. The rounds fall straight from the sky, computer-generated. Even if a new artillery system can be implemented in BF2 to fire actual rounds from gun to impact, it's a lot of work. Without the scripting ability that was part of OFP, I don't know how it's possible in BF2.

I have seen some manually-operated cannons in the AIX mod, but it's Line of Sight, which doesn't work for arty. There was an interesting method for artillery fire in BF1942, but not sure how any of it would work in PR.

[Rudd]

I think the devs (Rhino?) once said that when the bunker gets destroyed, the MG's remain.

My question is, why doesnt this happen with vehicles?

sorry for thread revival, knew the relevant thread existed, but hard to find.

[MarineSeaknight]

I think the devs (Rhino?) once said that when the bunker gets destroyed, the MG's remain.

My question is, why doesnt this happen with vehicles?

sorry for thread revival, knew the relevant thread existed, but hard to find.

You're correct about the MG remaining.

It doesn't happen with vehicles, I'd presume, because the MG isn't a seperate part of the vehicle, it's essentially PART of it. So, when the vehicle is destroyed, so is the MG that's mounted on it.

This explanation would bring up the question: Well then, why can't we make MGs PART of the deplyable bunker then? Something I can't answer because I'm technically inclined

[Cyrax-Sektor]

You're correct about the MG remaining.

It doesn't happen with vehicles, I'd presume, because the MG isn't a separate part of the vehicle, it's essentially PART of it. So, when the vehicle is destroyed, so is the MG that's mounted on it.

This explanation would bring up the question: Well then, why can't we make MGs PART of the deployable bunker then? Something I can't answer because I'm technically inclined (sums me up)

Hmm, when I mucked about in the editor, I chose the blue PR technical. I clicked the gun to see what would happen, and I could shift it about and position it where I pleased. Same with the RPK-74 front gun. So, I could have the guns reversed, but I'd bet something would look funny.

The almighty PR-team will find a way! TOWs would be nice too, if it's realistic.