[Proposal] Falklands Mini-Mod

r0yalcit0 · Post by **r0yalcit0** » 2007-12-04 19:57

Hello people of the PRMM:
I am r0yaL of the community of PRMM Argentina and wanted to introduce me before you.
I want you to know that i´m very proud of your work in this mod and i was wandering for your help in an specific task.
I´m Argentinian and i have been thinking to make a mod about the Malvinas (Falklands) conflict, so i wander what would you think about it, and if the people of the United Kingdom can help us because it was their conflict too.
I will be attendant to any indications you can make and/or help you can give.

Thanks r0yaL

KP · Post by KP » 2007-12-04 20:01

Would be cool, I think. However, there's already a bunch of community mods going on, so my suggestion is to wait for them to finish up first. Also, the Falklands campaign would probably need a whole new mod by itself, as PR focuses on near future.

And welcome to the forums!

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-12-04 20:20

not excacly a hole new mod , since some thing are (or will be) in the mod , like that light tank (scintar or something like that

) , soldiers may need just a reskin and , of course , new weapons (all the comunity mods are making new weapons).

mazur mikola · Post by **mazur mikola** » 2007-12-04 20:44

That is awesom

G.Drew · Post by **G.Drew** » 2007-12-04 21:55

i would be kool, but as mentioned it would be a entirely new mod with all the stuff required to make it happen

Superior Mind · Post by **Superior Mind** » 2007-12-04 22:33

It would not need to be a new mod, but it could be.
Things it would need:

-Argentinian faction
Players, Vehicles, Statics, Spanish voice-overs, weapons.

-British Faction
Vehicles [sea craft, harrier], L1A1(FN-FAL).

-New Maps (Goose Green, San Carlos, etc.)

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-12-04 22:49

for a fisr release the only important things are :

-player skins
-weapons (fals were used by both sides)
-some vehicles (jeeps , apcs an atvs)
-spanish voices .
-maybe some statics , but we acn use the destroyable ones , since they looks similar to the ones in flaklands.

MrD · Post by **MrD** » 2007-12-04 23:09

Hmm, Brit forces used FN-Fal rifles, GPMG's, LAW66's, Mortars, frag nades. Brit SF used M16's and GPMG's. Brit skins would need fresh creation, to represent less helmet use, low boots and cold weather gear Vehicle usage was virtually non existent on Brit side due to distance to the fight and weather conditions.

The conflict was short really. I wonder if it worth its own mod? It could be merged with another mod. Create the two armies skins and weapons choice, maps could easily be created as nature doesn't change really. The AAS2 push system wouldn't exactly make things historically historic though.

Do you place the deviation of the Argentinian forces as lower than the Brits to represent the amount of conscripts within their forces that were not professional soldiers?

The amount of night fighting without night vision capabilities means a lot of very dark maps will be needed, although with the ability to just see what you are doing.

Historical situations will be difficult to replicate really, which might make a travesty of the conflict. It might be seen as a half arsed attempt, who knows. Political insensitivities have to be considered to avoid embaressment. As Brits we don't hate Argentinians. We instead don't appreciate the way the governments of the time sent their forces to fight each other over land that we still don't see why we own (if you ask our general populous that question!) We respect each others involvement on the ground. Any attempt to recreate any of the inidividual fights have to thought over carefully.

I can see a hill bunker system with Brit forces attacking upwards, cp flags on each bunker on the way up, Argentinians providing a fighting retreat. Maybe a map to recreate Goose Green takeover.

Some people say that the main fighting to retake the built up area was easier than it should be due to SAS marching at top speed with GPMG's and a couple of belts of ammo each ahead of our main force and nothing much more, firing together onto the main conscript forces who had been told we would have x amount of GPMG's per x amount of troops and a lot of the conscripts ran thinking they were being assaulted by a massive force, leaving the place to be taken without much bloodshed the next day.

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-12-04 23:29

r0yalcit0 wrote:the people of the United Kingdom can help us because it was their conflict too.

Yeah we won it too,
Would be a great adition instead of replaying the old conflict how about Argentina join forces with the MEC and try to take on the Brits again in a post 2007 falklands war?

NYgurkha · Post by **NYgurkha** » 2007-12-05 03:59

Did both UK and Argentina field FN-FAL's as their main small arms? That cuts down on the work load.

Ironcomatose · Post by **Ironcomatose** » 2007-12-05 04:09

NYgurkha wrote:Did both UK and Argentina field FN-FAL's as their main small arms? That cuts down on the work load.

Yes but the Brit version was semi auto only where as the Argentinians were using full auto FALs.

mazur mikola · Post by **mazur mikola** » 2007-12-05 12:40

do the gpmg "fn mag"

=Romagnolo= · Post by **=Romagnolo=** » 2007-12-05 13:22

I'm going to be so happy playing as british

mrmong · Post by **mrmong** » 2007-12-05 16:32

i think mortars were used a lot, im not sure, i have this massive file thing on the falklands somewhere back at home that documents everything that happened from day one and has a bunch of weapons and stuff.

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » 2007-12-05 20:32

An idea I had today, as bf2 is set in a fictional context why not make it the II Falklands Conflict? Modern Day so Brits keep all their current skins plus maybe some Sea Kings, Gazelles, something along those lines. Then you just need some new Argie skins and vehicles, I know I would be willing to help set this up as I am currently looking at getting into modding. What you guys think?

Post by **duckhunt** » 2007-12-05 21:00

Brits didnt use FN FAL, was practically the same, but was build under licence of Fn to make the L1A1/SLR. A slightly improved version.

But yea a falklands mod could be fun. Lots of work though.

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » 2007-12-05 21:21

Okay, done a bit of research and found an IFV, that the Argentinians use At-4's as AT rockets. Heuys are their most popular transport chopper, couldn't find anything about attack helicopters but I didn't really look very hard. Is their a Heuy already being developed? Also some map ideas are obviously Goose Green and Port Stanley although more research needs to be done. If there are any people who are comopetant at making models/skinning get in contact with me as I'd like to see this done.

Post by **strima** » 2007-12-05 21:30

To bring it up to date you would have to map Mount Pleaseant airbase and maybe Mare Harbour with the bulk fuel installation.

To be honest there is still the threat of some thing kicking off down there but after three tours of that place I've seen enough of that landscape!!!!

robbo · Post by **robbo** » 2007-12-05 21:38

Strima how likley is an Argentinian attack? if so how easy would it be to send them packing?

Morgan · Post by **Morgan** » 2007-12-05 21:44

"In 1998 Argentina was granted Major non-NATO ally status by the United States. The modern Argentine Army is fully committed to international peacekeeping under United Nations mandates, humanitarian aid and emergencies relief."

God bless wiki.

But we have past history with them and don't most Argentinans think that the Falklands are technically theirs?