UK m4

Saint_Patrick · Post by **Saint_Patrick** » 2008-02-04 01:42

So just a quick question. in the new version did you guys bother on touching up the UK SF M4, that gun has always struck me as a bit blocky. a little more effort could of gone into it.

Post by **Jaymz** » 2008-02-04 02:14

yeah, it's a little bit iffy alright. Mainly the animations, the hands glitch through on most parts of the weapon.

ConscriptVirus · Post by **ConscriptVirus** » 2008-02-04 02:46

lol yeah it is blocky. tho i havent seen many SFers lately.

SGT.JOKER · Post by **SGT.JOKER** » 2008-02-04 03:00

ConscriptVirus wrote:lol yeah it is blocky. tho i havent seen many SFers lately.

thier mostly on bashrah

and yeah, Id like to see the glitching with the hands go away if its possible

Expendable Grunt · Post by **Expendable Grunt** » 2008-02-04 08:01

Ghost1800 wrote:Hey, special forces is pretty useful in Kashan as long as you have an attack chopper or jet... you have to be in the same squad as them though if you want any chance of getting a successful strike (The M4 isn't too bad in clearing the bunkers either).

P.S. Is there any real difference between the UK and USMC M4s?

The model is the only difference.

Post by **Rhino** » 2008-02-04 08:19

Saint_Patrick wrote:So just a quick question. in the new version did you guys bother on touching up the UK SF M4, that gun has always struck me as a bit blocky. a little more effort could of gone into it.

ye, its a very old model (was made well before BF2 was released) and one of the first hand weapons we got ingame. Really needs to be redone like soo many of our models have just its low priority where we still have many placeholders to fill still

Pain · Post by **Pain** » 2008-02-04 10:11

Why you dont use some guns out of the special force addon for them or just the m4 from a usmc spec ops?

Other questions to the devs:

do you know the palace from the sf addon on this city map? Could you implement it in any dessert maps? Maybe basrah and kashan (+ a little town in kashan).

there were other intresting buildings too, like those littele enterable towers or the big radio tower.

Maxfragg · Post by **Maxfragg** » 2008-02-04 10:37

because this is a gun the brits really use (the HK guns in SF are only used by the SAS not by common forces)
and because it is not a M-4 but a Diemaco C8/C7 which are licence build M4/M16 but as you can see, they look a bit different

Post by **Rhino** » 2008-02-04 10:40

Maxfragg wrote:because this is a gun the brits really use (the HK guns in SF are only used by the SAS not by common forces)
and because it is not a M-4 but a Diemaco C8/C7 which are licence build M4/M16 but as you can see, they look a bit different

glad to see some one who knows what they are on about

Maxfragg · Post by **Maxfragg** » 2008-02-04 10:44

yeah, i only never understood why half of the community thinks that the brit SF would have a M4 (and wonder y you've made a second M4 moddel)

Pain · Post by **Pain** » 2008-02-04 11:01

I dont care about brit guns, the brit army isnt intresting at all for me.

They use bad guns in my eyes. But why not give them the sas gun? The sas are special forces and if theiy use this sf gun then its much better than the current model for pr i think.

Maxfragg wrote:yeah, i only never understood why half of the community thinks that the brit SF would have a M4

Because the brits have a really unintresting army in this days, what they do except running behind the us army? They dont have intresting equipment and old weapons, the only intresting brit army part are the green barrets.

I know they are involved in the current war in iraq but they are not powerful enough in europe to be intresting enough, there are much more intresting armys all over (usa, russia, france, china, ger)

Maxfragg · Post by **Maxfragg** » 2008-02-04 11:06

because the SF is not a SAS (as the USMC SF is no SEAL . . .)

Post by **Rhino** » 2008-02-04 11:07

Pain wrote:I dont care about brit guns, the brit army isnt intresting at all for me.

They use bad guns in my eyes. But why not give them the sas gun? The sas are special forces and if theiy use this sf gun then its much better than the current model for pr i think.

if you dont care about the Brit army why are you so interested in the Brit spec ops to have a scar or w/e? Also the C7/C8 isnt really a British gun...

Pain wrote:Because the brits have a really unintresting army, what they do except running behind the us army? They dont have intresting equipment and old weapons, the only intresting brit army part are the green barrets.

I know they are involved in the current war in iraq but they are not powerful enough in europe to be intresting enough, there are much more intresting armys all over (usa, russia, france, china, ger)

shows just how little you know, stay out of things you dont understand as really, you only make yourself look like a complete fool.

BTW, the SA80 series is hardly old, its a way newer design than the M16 which was first designed in the early 1960s, where the SA80s first came in at around 1985. Get your facts right mate.

Maxfragg · Post by **Maxfragg** » 2008-02-04 11:10

....it is canadian (but used by canada, denmark, uk, netherlands ...)

Pain · Post by **Pain** » 2008-02-04 11:34

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:if you dont care about the Brit army why are you so interested in the Brit spec ops to have a scar or w/e? Also the C7/C8 isnt really a British gun...

Maybe the gun isnt the correct then but the current model ingame looks like a plastic toy gun.

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote: shows just how little you know, stay out of things you dont understand as really, you only make yourself look like a complete fool.

I dont know much about the uk army, and the reason i told you. But the point is the brits are atm a little bad equipped europ army.

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote: BTW, the SA80 series is hardly old, its a way newer design than the M16 which was first designed in the early 1960s, where the SA80s first came in at around 1985. Get your facts right mate.

The m16 and m4 series are bad too, they have a few construction problems. Much jamming coz of heat and dirt... I never said the 16 is better but the sa80 is **** too...

The other armies i told you are just more intresting in diffrent points not in handguns only:

usa : big and good equiped army with lots of money behind
china: awesome resouces of manpower there
russia: big armie with equip thats used by all ppl around the world
france: nuclear power too, and some intresting specials like the foreign legion etc
germany: modern equipment, best gun fabrications all over world // best high tec stuff like the 120mm cannon for tanks which used by many armies

what does the brits have? They just unpopular, so why all should know their specific loadouts for the sf`s?

The point is the current gun for the brit sf looks like a plastic water pistol. So in my eyes a gun which is already ingame and which in use by the brits (special trained units no common soldiers) maybe better fits like the plsatic gun atm.

In rl there a much more diffrent kinds of guns around there, and its your decision what they use in pr. But the current model dont look good.

Whats with the palace? is there maybe a chance to see it in pr in future?

Post by **Rhino** » 2008-02-04 11:40

lol mr pain, I'm just going to let the other pubbies rip you to shreds

Pain · Post by **Pain** » 2008-02-04 11:45

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:lol mr pain, I'm just going to let the other pubbies rip you to shreds

Ok...

Was just a suggestion for the bad designed model in the brit sf kit without wasting much work/time for a new model.

Maybe you can answer my palace question? Thats off topic but i asked 2 times here

??:

Post by **Rhino** » 2008-02-04 11:51

Pain wrote:Ok...

Was just a suggestion for the bad designed model in the brit sf kit without wasting much work/time for a new model.

Maybe you can answer my palace question? Thats off topic but i asked 2 times here ??:

I did, 10 posts ago if you bother too look...

[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:ye, its a very old model (was made well before BF2 was released) and one of the first hand weapons we got ingame. Really needs to be redone like soo many of our models have just its low priority where we still have many placeholders to fill still

Gaz · Post by **Gaz** » 2008-02-04 11:55

Pain wrote:I dont care about brit guns, the brit army isnt intresting at all for me.

They use bad guns in my eyes. But why not give them the sas gun? The sas are special forces and if theiy use this sf gun then its much better than the current model for pr i think.

Because the brits have a really unintresting army in this days, what they do except running behind the us army? They dont have intresting equipment and old weapons, the only intresting brit army part are the green barrets.

I know they are involved in the current war in iraq but they are not powerful enough in europe to be intresting enough, there are much more intresting armys all over (usa, russia, france, china, ger)