Removing Exploits...

Post by **RikiRude** » 2006-03-11 10:34

now i know, no matter what we do and i also know most of us are guilty of these, but there are some big exploits that im not sure what can be done to switch them.

1. Nade spamming - Today playing Oasis I encounted a 2 minute long nade spamming session, I think if there is a way, make it so support bags dont refill grenades.

2. The Amazing Mobile Spawn Point - Switching between squads, and switching squad leaders so people can spawn wherever. I'm not sure how to fix this, but maybe make it so there is a 2 minute delay between switching squads or squad leaders?

3. uh well thats all i got right now. haha. i thought the list would be longer, add to it.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-11 12:01

Riki_Rude_BTYC wrote:1. Nade spamming - Today playing Oasis I encounted a 2 minute long nade spamming session, I think if there is a way, make it so support bags dont refill grenades.

I think for nade spamming this REALLY needs to be fixed. ITs so so stupid espicaly with the damge a nade can do.

Riki_Rude_BTYC wrote:2. The Amazing Mobile Spawn Point - Switching between squads, and switching squad leaders so people can spawn wherever. I'm not sure how to fix this, but maybe make it so there is a 2 minute delay between switching squads or squad leaders?

This has a simpal solution. Dont allow ppl to leave the sqaud, when they are dead. Im not sure how you would code this but this should fix most of the probs.

Post by **eggman** » 2006-03-11 12:08

Will see what we can do for 030.

egg

Peter-SAS · Post by **Peter-SAS** » 2006-03-11 12:30

yes the squad switching is a bit naughty. More of a vbf2 tactic, but I'm guilty of doing it sometimes.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-03-11 15:31

About nade spamming: A big help would be giving the bag to a class that has no explosives, not to mention to a class with such a powerful weapon.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2006-03-11 18:17

I usually only switch squads when all my squadmates leave, or the SL isn't doing ****.

Figisaacnewton · Post by **Figisaacnewton** » 2006-03-11 18:32

solution to support nade spaming, give them smoke nades not frag nades.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-11 18:42

Figisaacnewton wrote:solution to support nade spaming, give them smoke nades not frag nades.

GOD NO!, you obvoicly aint seen smoke spamming then.... the best way to piss somone off it to get a support near you, then get him to keep on supplieing you when you are chucking the smoke nades at a team mate. there pc cant take 20 somke nades all going off constanly with extra dence smoke and it lags like SHIT!

And if you are going to take away frag nades from the support. All the guys have to do to nade spam is work as a team. Foir exsample somtimes i use my noob tube as a morta. I get a support (normaly evilpile a guy in my clan) to sit next to me and keep giving me ammo while i rain down mortaers on the enemys heads. I somtimes have a sniper to correct my fireing saying abit left or abit up ect.

What we need is anouther solution like no instant ammo. or you can only reload your ammo when pressing and holding "E" on a ammo bag, and not just walk upto it.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-03-11 18:43

Ehh, then you get spamming of those

??:. I say have a class with an M16, binoculars, wrench and an ammo bag.

Rhino: At least that takes teamwork

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-11 19:00

'[R-PUB wrote:BrokenArrow']Rhino: At least that takes teamwork

yep, gets me alot of kills and my ammo man alot of points. I would prefer to see teamwork and no teamwork but i dont want to see nade spamming

At the moment u just have a support chucking himself down ammo bags and lobbing them conatnly. 1, take away the support nades but then he can still let other ppl nade spam. or 2 make it so ammo takes along time to reload from bags or u have to push and hold "e" for abit of time when you are over them. Thous are my best ideas i can think of.

Ghost33 · Post by **Ghost33** » 2006-03-11 20:53

I played another mod where the support guy had his 249, a knife and his ammo bag. And, well it was perfect, thats all a support guy needs
A hell of a lot of ammo a big @ss gun to soot it and the ability to rearm his fellow troops.

GIZMO{EES} · Post by **GIZMO{EES}** » 2006-03-11 21:49

Sounds Good to me.

Post by **RikiRude** » 2006-03-11 22:12

Ghost33 wrote:I played another mod where the support guy had his 249, a knife and his ammo bag. And, well it was perfect, thats all a support guy needs
A hell of a lot of ammo a big @ss gun to soot it and the ability to rearm his fellow troops.

such as medics dont really need nades do they?

i also agree with rhino, make it so the resupply has to do the samething medics do.

Post by **e-Gor** » 2006-03-11 22:18

I don't really see why support need grenades, either. For a start, their weapon is so much more powerful than any other...

Things can be done about the squad switching using python - for example you can limit people to two or three switches per round, or make them only able to switch once every 5 minutes, or whatever.

DEDMON5811 · Post by **DEDMON5811** » 2006-03-12 07:31

Like I have said before. The ammo bag should be carried by the assault class. It could be like an extra barrell for the saw

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-12 09:48

DEDMON5811 wrote:Like I have said before. The ammo bag should be carried by the assault class. It could be like an extra barrell for the saw

No o dont think the asssult should have the ammo bag, it would just make the GL a morta. It allready is for me 1/2 the time and thats cos i get a support next to me and then i start using it as a morta.

BLind · Post by **BLind** » 2006-03-12 14:52

how about just get rid of the ammo bags .....

not entirely realistic are they, would put much more importance on supply crates and watching ur ammo usage. if ths were done it would probably be best to give each class an extra mag or 2 .

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-12 15:03

damn, not a bad idea!

also have some like hummers have abit of ammo in them ect but you would need to sit in it for some time or stand arround to get ammo

acadiancrusader · Post by **acadiancrusader** » 2006-03-12 15:38

get everyone to start with more ammo and get rid of the bags

Post by **RikiRude** » 2006-03-17 22:17

i think getting rid of ammo bags would be alright, but youd have to double the amount of clips people carry by 50%. And I'd like it if supply crates didnt resupply nades (only smoke ones).

My idea stands as the fastest solution, keep everything the way it is, and just make it so the ammo bag takes longer to recharge, as it is now, I think it recharges MUCH MUCH faster then it should. You can toss out 3 ammo bags when you first spawn? I dont think so. I think you should be able to toss out one and have to wait a decent amount of time. This changes alot of things, you won't see ammo bags littering the feild in random spots, and you wont have people begging for ammo after they use one clip.

my friends idea
Retardeding: there's no sense in suffering other aspects of the game just o get rid of nades
Retardeding: I say one ammo bag gives you back one nade
Retardeding: or the only way to get back nades are thru supply crates
Retardeding: that could solve your problem right there
Retardeding: maybe
Retardeding: I'd much rather just start out with two grenades each spawn and not be able to get anymore than to have the supply paks get deleted
Retardeding: that right there is a definite fix for nade spam
Retardeding: and if they do try and nade spam
Retardeding: you know it's only going to be for a termporary point of time
Retardeding: since they only get 2 nades per spawn
Retardeding: you could also have two seperate ammo paks for the support
Retardeding: one could be just regular bullets
Retardeding: and the other could be explosives
Retardeding: for AT
Retardeding: nades
Retardeding: and the recharge rate on the explosives pack could go like..half or a 3rd the speed of the ammo pack
Retardeding: make sense?
Retardeding: I've always thought about this idea for PR
Retardeding: even before nade spamming
Retardeding: it just makes sense
Retardeding: I like the two seperate ammo bags the best
Retardeding: I mean if it takes a good 30 seconds for your explosives pack to recharge
Retardeding: you aren't going to see people just tossing grenades left and right
Retardeding: 30 seconds as opposed to what...3 seconds on the ammo packs they have now?