Pub Games vs Clan Matches/Tourney's

[SGT.JOKER]

Ive had good pub games and bad pub games, Im curiouse to see how they hold up to clan vs clan and tournament style matches. I'd join a clan and find out for my self but money is very tight for me right now

[Slavak]

You don't have to pay to join a clan...

Organized clan play with proper teamwork beats any pub game.

[Eddiereyes909]

Ive had good pub games and bad pub games, Im curiouse to see how they hold up to clan vs clan and tournament style matches. I'd join a clan and find out for my self but money is very tight for me right now

PRT is the best (and only, hence forth the best) Tournament in PR. No matter what team your on, or if you win or lose the game is always enjoyable. There is nothing better than making a battle plan and then seeing your team achieve it goals through that plan.

If your ever in town at the PRT, just send me a PM and I'll fill you in, as I'm kind of, just a little bit important.

[Masaq]

I'd say that the most fun way to play PR is within a regular community of players rather than within a clan. Find a server with players that play the game the way you like to play it, and just become a regular there.

The clan/community that own it may invite you to join, and may or may not require payment to help cover server costs - but even if you don't take them up on that offer, you're still able to play the server regularly and enjoy the benefit of playing with a group of people that know how you play and know that you can be trusted with kits, assets and Squad Leading/Commanding.

You don't have to worry about regular training or attending on any particular night (as you do in some clans and in the PR Tournament), you don't have to worry about the money (as you do in some clans) and you can still build yourself a reputation as a team-player and reliable chap all-round.

[T&T] - Tactics & Teamwork work on this basis, and it works pretty well for us. We have a core of 10-15 members who pay for and administrate the server, we have a strict no-idiots policy when playing - anyone causing trouble is warned once and then kicked, and our regulars know that by coming onto the server they're getting a server that's going to be 5at least 60% full of other regulars most nights. Our members don't feel they have to attend on any given night, we don't train or impose any kind of strict order, so we have a happy membership where people can be as active or as inactive as RL demands.

[mammikoura]

PRT was alright, then it went to hell and all the good guys left. Then I left and haven't gone back since.

But overall, organized players > random players. During the past year I don't think I have EVER joined a random squad. I always play with my friends, that way I know that every single round is going to be good.

[cyberzomby]

Masaq is right. I enjoy allmost all of my pub games because I almost only play on 2 servers: TG and T&T. Your playing with a group of players with the same mindset. Would like to see how the PR Tournament plays and how it plays with a clan but knowing myself: I probably wouldnt make the time once school/internships starts.

[Eddiereyes909]

PRT was alright, then it went to hell and all the good guys left. Then I left and haven't gone back since.

You have no idea.

[LtSoucy]

PRT was alright, then it went to hell and all the good guys left. Then I left and haven't gone back since.

Correct, worse when you have to leave to make a point to your commanders to smarten up. PRT is ok, best bet is to try a clan.

[Lexus@[gp]]

I never play clan games, only public.
The biggest thing I usually find is that if a game has already started when you join, you can usually only get into the more crappy squads where nobody really wants to lead and are only doing so to not get kicked from the game.
If you bear with it until the start of a new round you can usually get in a voip team with a squad leader who wants to lead, and not just because he had no option but to form a squad because there were no spaces left in a decent squad.
This always improves the game by hundreds of percent! And in a lot of cases I would imagine is just as good as any clan game.

[Rudd]

I joined the PRT late in C6 and loved it, 4th Rifles FTW!

I'd happily come back in C7, but I'm unsure of my internet access at university this coming academic year.

and btw, Mars was a awesome commander and great bloke who did a brilliant job as commander as far as I'm concerned (I was in NATO2).

The difference between organised and normal clan play is quite large, mostly in the organisation side. Clan play is generally smaller, you sort out a few tactics and play by ear when the plan doesn't cut it. Tourney is always 64 player with a great deal of organisation as to who is doing what, sorting out communications (which rocked btw, thanks to mars again afaik)

Being in the PRT was kinda like being in a clan between the bi weekly matches since everyone there had the correct ethos of teamwork you could always grab a NATO squad and do some pubbing (hopefully with a few CATAs on teh other side for fun ) CATA was fun to pub with as well ofc

I think the PRT is what you make of it tbh, some ppl moaned all the time about this, that and the other but as far as I was concerned, if It didn't concern the gameplay and how to win...I ignored it. But the tourneys are a big commitment since you have to attend trainings every week, and if you don't contribute effort you won't enjoy the tourney, or be respected.

Clans are just plain fun without as much effort, the kind of thing you can do anytime you want to, or just people to be friends with over the internetz without all the facebook ****

ok...written a small essay here....gonna stop....

[HunterMed]

Correct, worse when you have to leave to make a point to your commanders to smarten up.

I had to lol hard after this one. Sorry...

Well, I never played in a Clan in PR. But from other games and experience I know that the tournaments are much more organized and guarantee a lot of fun during trainings and battles.

Those who say the tournament is not good anymore (who are not in the tournament anymore because they got kicked or left cause of frustration) are just embittered imo.

For me tournament is still the best in PR. I think without the tournament I wouldnt play PR that often or would play it still...
PRT is just how PR should be played

[Masaq]

Quick reminder:

PR Tournament debates - who left what and when because of whom or whatever (and so on and soforth) are best had on the PR Tournament forum, because unlike over there, if you have those debates here, people will be put firmly in their place for having senseless Tournament squabbles in public.

Keep Tournament issues in the tournament, and keep the all the best aspects of the Tournament on show over here, yes?

[Farks]

Organized team/clan games ftw.

[Eddiereyes909]

I had to lol hard after this one. Sorry...

Yes I agree lulzy.

IMO, PRT is one of the best experiences I have ever had in PR. Ever.


PRT:The way it's meant to be played.

[Skodz]

Public Vs Clan = epic fail

Most of the time, when you get too many clan member on the same team vs public, they just leave because they are being pwn very hard :/ sad but true.

[PFunk]

Im definitely going to look into joining the PRT next round. Hope work doesn't get in the way.

I've had some average, crappy, and fantastic public games. I once had Fuzzhead's squad. Fantastic. Some other great SLs. Its just nice when a squad has all mics.

[cyberzomby]

Public Vs Clan = epic fail

Most of the time, when you get too many clan member on the same team vs public, they just leave because they are being pwn very hard :/ sad but true.

I understand why. Its not fun. Seeing most PR Games take about an hour or more you want that time to be fun. For most people playing PR that hour is the only time in a day they can do what they want and have fun. Being pwned because a clan is not deviding itself isnt that fun. I never left games like that but I can understand why people leave.

[blud]

Clan games, pub games, and Tourney games are 3 different things.

In all 3 you can have good games and bad games.


Some of the pros of pub games are that you can join and leave when you want, there's no real consequence for losing, so it doesn't matter if you lose, if you're lucky and you have a good squad AND there's another good squad on your team, then you can have a really good game.

Some of the cons of pub games are that sometimes you get stuck on long boring pointless rounds, like when the teams are very uneven and you've lost in the first 20 minutes but then have to wait 2 hours till the round is over, that if you don't have a group of friends to play with it is a **** shoot as far as getting into a good squad, you can end up on poor teams where the squads aren't really coordinating with each other.


Some of the pros to tourney games are that they are epic and big, sometimes with well thought out strats. Compared to random pubbing you get a community aspect which is nice (although you would get that with a clan as well).

Some of the cons to tourney games are that a lot of the people on your team will generally be strangers since the teams are large and open to anyone to join. You're at the mercy of how the tourney is run, so you may experience things like battles starting improperly because the admin's don't ensure both teams are ready. The teams in the tourney don't use a draft system, so they can be grossly uneven with all the vets on 1 team and noobs on another.


Some of the pros to clan games are that you can find the right clan to match what you're looking for (ie: If you like ranks and military stuff (which I hate personally) then you can join a realism Unit, or if you like a more laid back fun clan you can find that too), when you play the clan games they are generally run very professionally and no bs, there is a stronger community sense and you know your teammates better, most clans will give everyone input into strats and don't treat people like noobs just because they are new to the clan, the games are very exciting - much more so than pub games. The difference in intensity is like the difference between an organized sports match and a casual soccer game with your friends.

Some of the cons to clan games is if you are a very slow or casual player, you might not be up to the task, perhaps you're happy just pubbing. They are scheduled, unlike pubs where you can just play when you happen to have the free time. When you lose it pretty much counts, so for people with fragile egos, pubbing is better because when you lose you can shrug it off more easily.

[SGT.JOKER]

After looking through allot of the posts I think Ill give the PRT a try when it starts up again

[Razick]

The only real difference between public games and organized matches is simply the coordination and leadership. Right off the bat in terms of coordination its miles ahead of any pub game youll ever play. Small tactical mistakes usually end up costing you ten fold and every squad communicates to each other directly so you have a true team effort instead of squads just taking roles that need to be filled.

Now leadership without a doubt is the bigger part of the equation and has the biggest effect on the experience. Everyone that is leading is competent so the standard of play through out is much higher than normal. Because of this people tend to play much better than normal and the reward feeling of a win is much higher. This of course goes both ways and a losing feels a lot worse than pub games.

But this experience comes at a price. You will have to sacrifice commitments and quite a bit of time, specially in the Tournament. The other part is that you are dealing with people so there is a bit of politics to go through. The PRT in particular is a first come first serve type of deal and some people have a lot of time on their hands so if your a no show you stay that way. Personally for me its worth all the BS because no matter how bad the game goes its always much better than my best public round.