ABR, Good or Bad?

General discussion of the Project Reality: BF2 modification.
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Do you want ABR on PRMM Servers? *Read Below before you Vote*

Yes
44
51%
No
28
32%
Don't care
15
17%
 
Total votes: 87
Skullening.Chris
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Post by Skullening.Chris »

Yeah, no stats of any kind plz. They bring out the worst in some people.
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Pence
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Post by Pence »

Peter-SAS wrote:Then you wouldn't be able to move without the constant cries of "clear" "ammo" "need ammo"

and about 50 meds trying to revive one guy.
Thats not teamwork...... :confused:
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Skullening.Chris
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Post by Skullening.Chris »

I think he means that what you get teamwork points for now are those sorts of acts: resupplying, medding, reviving, etc. A lotta people overdo it now as it is just to be in first place, so it seems a teamwork-based scoring system would be just as bad, but we'll see...
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Pence
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Post by Pence »

I want a teamwork based score system, meaning if the comander says do somethink then you must do it as a team and can only recive points for doing just that.
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Lugubrum
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Post by Lugubrum »

I have thought about the ABR ranking and I prefer no stats at all. Stats have a negative influence on the teamplay I think.
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Blindeye
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Post by Blindeye »

i like ABR they are nice but it can kill some prmm servers that cant support ABR, just because people want stats. just like on vbf2 people only wanted to play ranks to get high scores.
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six7
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Post by six7 »

ABR causes gloryhoundz to lag more than other servers with similar ping and rarely cause me to CTD
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anything
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Post by anything »

i'm thinking the same as pence, get rid of abr and the ingame personal stats and change it so that the ONLY way to score points is by completing commander objectives with your squad mates.
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the.ultimate.maverick
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Post by the.ultimate.maverick »

Pence wrote:I want a teamwork based score system, meaning if the comander says do somethink then you must do it as a team and can only recive points for doing just that.
What if your commander is a n00b or a fool and sends you to certain death? Do you mutiny? What happens to the points other units have gained under that commander if he is removed? Would a mutiny vote work? Etc...?
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anything
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Post by anything »

just lower the number of votes needed for mutiny
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ScotCop
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Post by ScotCop »

I gave up caring about my stats when i stopped playing plain BF2, I've played on some of the ABR servers but not for the stats mostly because of them servers having players on them.

Its kinda pointless at this stage to get big in to ABR as the next day the server you were collecting stats on might be empty and you end up playing on another server without stats or starting over on another ABR server for the same to happen the next day.

ABR would be better if it had a set standard i.e. Server admins can't define how meny points it takes to move up to w/e ranks and when you join a different ABR server you have never played on it took you're global points and stats from the other server you were on and used them there just the same as the normal BF2 ranking system does.
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Rifleman
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Post by Rifleman »

I like ABR but i say NO to lags..
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00SoldierofFortune00
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Post by 00SoldierofFortune00 »

YEa the stats have been lagging real bad on GloryHoundz which is one of the most populated servers. There really is no point to stats if this is going to be about teamwork and reality. Those that decide to use teamwork are going to stay anyway, stats or no stats, and the ones that don't will probably end up going back to regualr BF2 for their unlocks etc.

Just get rid of them, since they don't serve any purpose in the game and can only hurt it and not help it. If the mod gets a bigger fan base, they will only hurt it when the people from regular BF2 come over and think they will get unlocks, ranks etc.

Even if you don't care about the ranks or not, or have the app installed for them, it is still distracting to see the ranks pop up when you first kill 1 person etc.
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Skullening.Chris
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Post by Skullening.Chris »

Yeah, GloryHoundz does great for me ping-wise, but SOMETHING is lagging it horribly, which everyone seems to say is ABR. It's really frustrating to die repeatedly because of a sudden lag spike in the middle of an intense firefight.
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Post by Rhino »

Skullening.Chris wrote:Yeah, GloryHoundz does great for me ping-wise, but SOMETHING is lagging it horribly, which everyone seems to say is ABR. It's really frustrating to die repeatedly because of a sudden lag spike in the middle of an intense firefight.
Like ive said before god knows how manny times, as long as the server is lagging, you will not lag by ping unless you go above 300.... get it into your heads this is not Quake 1 or 2....
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Skullening.Chris
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Post by Skullening.Chris »

Then tell SAS server to quit kicking me for 150 ping :P
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