Smacktard level rising

[MadTommy]

if spawn time will be more then 2 minutes a lot of people will move back to PoE2 and other more player-friendly mods .

Exactly...there is a mod for everyone.

[bosco_]

^
Hehe, that's what we want
Although two minutes are a bit harsh because often it's not your fault that you get killed (teamkilling and so on), but the timer should start at 60 seconds and add + 1 second for every death.

[gerardnm]

2 mins.........you guys ever get killed 45-16 times in a round....do you know how annoying it is to wait 45 secs only to be sniped as soon as you spawn.

Then wait 46 secs and join the squad for a nood toob to kill you.

47 secs... to be revived at 26 then killed and wait another 47 secs.

COME ON GUYS

And in 0.6 medics will probably be less effective given they cant heal themselves thus prolonging their own life.

2 mins........are people on drugs, it supposed to be an ENJOYABLE GAME

[MadTommy]

^^^ you just dont get it....sorry

[gerardnm]

????? so explain????

[MadTommy]

OK I’ll try...

2 mins.........you guys ever get killed 45-16 times in a round....do you know how annoying it is to wait 45 secs only to be sniped as soon as you spawn.

you spawned in the wrong place.. try again. Learn and adapt.

Then wait 46 secs and join the squad for a nood toob to kill you.

you spawned in the wrong place.. try again

47 secs... to be revived at 26 then killed and wait another 47 secs.

If a bluey revives you..oh well tough luck, if its your squad mate, you should said you didn't want a revive. Thats what i do.

Basicially there are lots thing about the way I play that have change since leaving vBF2 permenatly a year ago. PR is hard. But I'd like to see it harder. And if i'm not mistaken the DEVs are heading in that direction.

I don't want to spend 4 minutes or similar waiting to spawn. no one does.. however I’d prefer this if it encouraged the smacktards to never play PR again and promoted a slower more measured play style.

ps i'm making the assumption that smacktards would not have the patience for this. I would

[gerardnm]

I agree in part dude but the 30 sec plus 1 sec per death is plenty.

The key to avoiding smacktards is VERY STRONG admins.

Ok sometimes they re not about but i usually find its ok. I play TG all the time and 90% is free of smacktards...(They get kicked in no time).

When i ever played on devfile it was 90% smacktards and probably the worst experience ever.

1-2 mins is way too long. I'd compromise at a flat 45 secs per death with no addition per additional death. 45 secs is where u become uber careful

[{WaRrioR}]

Just got TKed about 3 times becuase "i got to the chopper before him!"
I hate to have to say this but this mods goin' downhill

[MadTommy]

...but the 30 sec plus 1 sec per death is plenty.

This why opinions are good. But you are wrong lol (j/k)

How about.. 5 second spawn with 10 seconds added for each death.

I'm not 'suggesting' this.. the DEVs will do their own thing anyway, good on them. But its the direction i'd like to see. Death = big penalty

[MadTommy]

Just got TKed about 3 times becuase "i got to the chopper before him!"
I hate to have to say this but this mods goin' downhill

i feel for you brother.. i got Tked last night because i crashed a hummer.. my passenger who had asked for a lift, (i went out of my way to pick him up), shot me in the back as i retreated from my burning hummer.. the smacktard typed.. "learn to drive dickhead" he then picked up my sniper kit and got fried! (thanks Eggman & co. more of these nice tweaks please )

[Outlawz7]

Hmm, how about adding a server option to increase the spawn timers from 30 seconds up to whatever anyone wants?

Have all PROS servers running like 1:30 seconds spawn timers, or 2 minutes, untill all the smacktards uninstall PR and go back to vanilla. After that, lower it back to 30 seconds, but keep it down, so tards dont come back...
If they do, just raise the spawn timer again

[Hx.Clavdivs]

ok.. thats worth a buck.. your on... gimme gimme that 15 min spawn server now!!!!.. is paypal good with you Clavdivs?

Well, we sure got folks talking didn't we. Alright. I'll see what I can do with my server. I'd have to find a map that is just the right size and give you all a hefty fine for dying.

[gerardnm]

guys from the sound of it some of ther servers out there are ****. I know i keep saying this but if guys are insta kicked for things like intentional tk's, bad language and not following orders the server really cleans up in no time.

If theres a server that 3/4 full with 1 tard on it, then gameplay can be really badly affected. Admins should be insta kicking on every server for the above.

Devfiles a prime example, just read the comm prose and u ll see what i mean.

Maybe its cause i m a TG head but that s really what makes the difference....no compromise on following orders, no compromise on foul language, no compromise on any sort of gamesmanship (attacking UCB etc).

Ista kick and u ll see a big change in a few days from better gameplay

[Outlawz7]

Really weird, no one has been playing on Devfile for days now...I searched for the server, its up, but empty...

[MadTommy]

gerardnm.. this is very hard for the server admins. But what you are saying is correct.
TG is FAR from perfect. I've played on the TG server a lot, u still get plenty of anti social idiots on there.

Who is paying these admins!.. no one. In all my years of playing mulitplayer games server admins have never been able to do it by themselves.

It is very difficult to hand out instant justice without making a lot of mistakes. And to go through logs and watch demos etc is very time consuming and boring.

This problem needs to be tackled from many sides.. admins cant do it alone. They don’t on TG.. TG plays well with lots of the TG lads on the server, the whole clan acts as admin. As some one else said previously it lives and dies by the TG guys.
I’ll only put up with the extra ping when lots of the TG guys are on the server.

[gerardnm]

gerardnm.. this is very hard for the server admins. But what you are saying is correct.
TG is FAR from perfect. I've played on the TG server a lot, u still get plenty of anti social idiots on there.

Who is paying these admins!.. no one. In all my years of playing mulitplayer games server admins have never been able to do it by themselves.

It is very difficult to hand out instant justice without making a lot of mistakes. And to go through logs and watch demos etc is very time consuming and boring.

This problem needs to be tackled from many sides.. admins cant do it alone. They don’t on TG.. TG plays well with lots of the TG lads on the server, the whole clan acts as admin. As some one else said previously it lives and dies by the TG guys.
I’ll only put up with the extra ping when lots of the TG guys are on the server.

I agree, i play TG with a 130 ping most of the time, purely cause its the best out there.

You re dead right about it being self policing, the admins need as much help as they can get!!!!!!!

[Croix]

Yeah... smacktards are still around, in TG for me today.

For instance, Im driving an APC, not being directed by my squad leader except to attack the Dam and suddenly he spawns on me, tells me to get out of the APC, and switch out my kit with one on the ground so he can drive. I say no, and he TK's me for the kit. I TK punish, he dies, and kicks me from the squad.

This is the very same squad I had previously this very day had a couple of great rounds with, one on Helmand and the other in Inishail Forest (sp?). We were in fact the best squad on our team, at least until the SL went nuts and wanted my APC instead of to give orders.

The fucker's name was SargeFire as well. I would have even given him the kit if he didn't approach me from the side in wanting control of the APC, not that he'd have felt compelled to if he had given clear orders in the first place.

[Taffy]

Yeah... smacktards are still around, in TG for me today.

For instance, Im driving an APC, not being directed by my squad leader except to attack the Dam and suddenly he spawns on me, tells me to get out of the APC, and switch out my kit with one on the ground so he can drive. I say no, and he TK's me for the kit. I TK punish, he dies, and kicks me from the squad.

This is the very same squad I had previously this very day had a couple of great rounds with, one on Helmand and the other in Inishail Forest (sp?). We were in fact the best squad on our team, at least until the SL went nuts and wanted my APC instead of to give orders.

The fucker's name was SargeFire as well. I would have even given him the kit if he didn't approach me from the side in wanting control of the APC, not that he'd have felt compelled to if he had given clear orders in the first place.

What an arse. What an absolute arse. Hopefully n00bs like that won't enjoy 0.6 and will leave us proper players in peace. My fingers are well and truly crossed.

[Croix]

Well as crossed as your fingers may be, that still doesn't negate my feeling of this fellow being a smacktard.

[atps[swe]]

Perhaps some servers should consider password to be able to play them. To get the password you have to play a trail and if accepted by the admins you receive the password.
This method requires a bit more work from the admins but probably they wont have to spend a entire round kicking and yelling at tards.