G.Drew wrote:C4 > Claymores anyday
i have to put up with Claymores everywhere else in Bf2, i shouldnt have to in PR
unless the sniper kit gets 1 remote detonated claymore, that i can live with
After being pointed to this thread as the most recent Claymore thread, I feel it best to post my opinion here. I have fully read this whole topic, and most of it seems like everyone shouting about WHO should get it and not as much of how and when it would happen.
Regular snipers do NOT carry a claymore. Simple as that. Claymores are issued to frontline troops in the same manner that AT4's are issued. Not every grunt gets one, but every troop knows how to use them. They are not issued in every battle, same as the AT4, but are used when the situation may require them.
A claymore is carried in a canvas satchel bag which contains the mine itself, the clacker, a tester, and the length of line with the cap on one end and a rubber-booted connector on the other end that plugs into the clacker. On the inside flap of the satchel are instructions on use sewn on. The process of deploying a claymore when not under fire takes around 2-3 minutes, and under fire takes about 30 seconds due to not testing the kit first and not fully securing your line. The second method risks higher chance of the device not firing.
A claymore fires off hundreds of pellets in a forward arc, but the immediate area is still at risk of injury or death from the large C4 charge that explodes. Hence one of the reasons the cord is to long, so you can get far and behind cover to detonate it. For PR purposes, the immediate detonation area should be similar to the current hand grenade, yet have a longer forward kill zone.
Claymores have a very useful purpose where C4 is sometimes not desired. For example, C4 blows an entire area, while a claymore would only kill in a set killzone. A claymore would also not cause enough damage to level a house or bunker, or destroy a vehicle, as the C4 does in PR now.
Claymores can be rigged to detonate by many methods, but all of them are NOT practiced by normal infantry that use them. Special applications are field-expediant methods carried out mostly be SpecOps units or in rare cases by sniper teams. During my sniper training we learned to rig two metal plates to the wiring and place it in a tree, under said tree was the claymore facing a road or pathway. When the plates were shot and the bullet passed through, the hole would krink the two plates together and close the circuit, detonating the claymore. A sniper could use such a setup to detonate the claymore from a far distance, killing or maiming a patrol. The sound of their weapon would be concealed by the claymore blast, and they were free to engage any survivors if needed from a safe distance away. This is only one of over twenty methods of rigging that I have learned to use, but normal grunts that are issued the claymore would not be found employing such methods.
If you want realism, claymores should be added back in. Use a clacker, not proximity. Soldiers are issued ONE, not several. If made realistic in both damage as well as deployment, they can be useful without becoming a favorite new toy to grief about.
) We targeted this one claymore in direction of a mark. The distance was about 50 m and the target was full of holes from the claymore.
