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Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-12 18:34
by Snowno
Just woundering, would it be possible to make some kind of similar smoke effect on the jets? So that if you're flying close to the ground you will get this semi-big dust cloud after you.

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-12 18:42
by Gunwing
That would make jets so cool. Plus the pilot would get a bit of a visual que as to how close to the ground he is. I would like to see that as well IMHO!

Another thing is that if you hit the after burnners on a jet you should see the sound barriar wave break over the jet wings. IE might not be possable sense all aircraft use the same effects, and it looks different for all jets in real life but it would add that extra bit of realism thats for sure.

Also the bombs that planes drop need a nifty sound for when they are in the air and falling to the ground. Right now it's like a silent death that you don't find out about till it's too late. Thats easy to do, BF2 has sounds for it just make them lowder and last a bit longer and your good.

BTW While we are on the subject of sound why is it that you don't hear bombs from fare away but if you see them there is no sound too them? You hear and see the JDAM for miles, but if a bomb is dropped you see it sure, but the sound is not there at all. IMHO it would make things like a bomb or missile strike much better if we had some more pop like sound for them in the distance. IE BF2 has them for vehicle explosions so we can use those for hits and things as well at a distance.

FFOW dose this and it's great that you can look out and see as well as hear the sounds of distant bomb drops, airstrikes, and tank shells.

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-12 18:51
by Alex6714
Gunwing wrote:You will also need some different effects for landing on grass as well. I know that BF2 can and dose shack up things like the camo bunker texture so maybe we can get this to happen on grass as well. But it might take some major codeing.

Another thing is there would be less but still should be some dirt, or grass thats ripped up by a chopper if it lands on it.

We will also need some better watter effects as well, but thats only if we can get this stuff working well for lower end PCs. That or make it so only the high end settings in BF2 will make these effects show up for the player, but then we would have some major glitcher problems where the higher end PC users can't see, but the lower end can.

It's quite the pickle thats for sure Hmmmmmmmmm...............
The water effects have been improved, its in one of the videos. I have added more mist really. There are different types of effect for different terrain, so grass can be changed aswell. :)

As far as I know they do only show up for medium/high effects.

As for jets, I am not sure. Do you really fly that close to the ground though? :P

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-12 19:10
by AirCasper
I bet there is no way to have leaves and grass blow up over grass, is there?

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-12 19:17
by Alex6714
:grin:

It was already there, but I don´t think you could see it well.


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Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-12 19:26
by AirCasper
make it more noticeable maybe?

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-12 19:41
by Snowno
Alex, will this nifty little thing be released by you in the nearest future so that others can try it out and see how it looks? ;)

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-12 23:24
by Alex6714
Well later on in the week when I have more time I am going to try and finish a few *simple* effects and as you say it is probably a good idea to release it and then people can see first person/amount of possible lag. :)

So far:
Dust effect: finished depending opinions.
AA missile: finished depending opinions.
Hydras/hellfires: In progress but getting there I think. Check my youtube profile for a preview (can't link atm). Compare with "apache destroys car" search on youtube. Quite hard to get right these. In an ideal world the sounds would be changed also.
Water helo draft effect: done more or less.
Grass/other effects need testing so wip.
Also need to test other rockets (hat, lat, etc).

That's all I can think of atm. Need to have a look at the tanks ;) and trying to make a light for kashan nights runway to test, but is proving difficult. Also haven't been able to find the hydra rocket pod backblast effect.

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-12 23:55
by MarineSeaknight
Alex6714 wrote: As for jets, I am not sure. Do you really fly that close to the ground though? :P
I would if I knew a cool effect would happen.

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-13 00:11
by Waaah_Wah
Alex6714 wrote: Also need to test other rockets (hat, lat, etc).
Dont you touch HAT! :D Look at this: https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f66-co ... roing.html

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-13 17:39
by Gunwing
I got some cool videos of tanks in action here:

YouTube - M1A1/M1A2 Tanks in Action

Note: Great video good music, and great shots showing off the smoke and dust that happens around tanks.

YouTube - M1A1 tank fire...how it really is.

Just the tank shooting a round off this time nice close up almost top down veiw of it.

BTW I know it's not a majro thing but if we could get the fallowing effects for BMPs/APCs that hit the water at high speed this splash should happen:

YouTube - Russian military video

Note: This also shows the back wash of Tunguska missiles in action as well as T-90s, and a few other vehicles like the BMP3, and BTR-90..........

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-13 18:00
by Alex6714
Dont you touch HAT! Look at this: Community Modding - Project Reality Forums
Don´t worry, I am not chaging the H-AT, I was just going to check to see what effect it uses. :)

Hydra effects sort of nearly to my liking, although a bit hard to get right. Maybe too dark/much I don´t know. Best in high quality.

YouTube - Hydra effects

Trying to look a bit like this.

YouTube - Apache AH-64 Destroys Car - Nosecam


@Gunwing. I can´t do any more until thursday, but for sure I will have a look at the tank effects and see how they can be improved. :)

Nice looking videos. There are quite a few effects in there. I will have to have a mess around. :)

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-13 18:33
by DenvH
I think it needs more fade in and maybe a lower alpha.. If you do that it comes close to the reference from youtube i think. The rest is all fine with me, heli dust effect looks nice too, Nice work :-)

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-13 19:07
by =Romagnolo=
Alex6714 wrote: YouTube - Hydra effects



@Gunwing. I can´t do any more until thursday, but for sure I will have a look at the tank effects and see how they can be improved. :)

Nice looking videos. There are quite a few effects in there. I will have to have a mess around. :)

Huey with rockets ???? :o :grin: :shock: :grin: :o

and good luck with the tanks.

As you are with the hands in work, is difficult to make the explosions look more explosions ?

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-13 19:17
by Alex6714
=Romagnolo= wrote: As you are with the hands in work, is difficult to make the explosions look more explosions ?
Yeah probably, but, do you have any references?

That doesn't look like a Huey... though if it was that would certainly help all those stalemates at west beach.
At the end it is a huey. :)

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-13 19:43
by =Romagnolo=
One good thing to do with the explosions to add a realistic feeling is the wind carring the smoke explosion.

Off course I know that the bf2 engine is not so friendly to accept a wind concept, but take a look to the most video of small explosions, like grenades. You could try add a the "moving-dust-after-explosion" animation.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=borqTinXvPs[/youtube]


Other thing, big explosions are like of balls of fire, with black strips and spots. Take a look at this picture

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Yes, I know that is BF:Bad Company, but the picture shows very well the "ball of fire with black strips and spots".

I dont know the bf2 engine very well but you are trying new effects you could try do something similar.

I wish you luck :D

Re: [Alex6714] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-13 21:52
by Doc
AirCasper wrote:[I searched the forums, and found nothing on this topic. However if I missed a thread please let me know
Environmental Effects.

I really don't blame you for missing any of the threads. I
have personally searched to no avail. It's not even in the
"Already Suggested Suggestions" topic.

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-13 22:23
by Alex6714
=Romagnolo= wrote: Other thing, big explosions are like of balls of fire, with black strips and spots. Take a look at this picture

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Yes, I know that is BF:Bad Company, but the picture shows very well the "ball of fire with black strips and spots".
Maybe some are, but that is more of a "fuel" explosion or "film" explosion. I will look at the explosions once I have found a few videos.

Re: [Quick Fix] Dust Effect landing Helis

Posted: 2008-05-13 22:28
by Mosquill
=Romagnolo= wrote:One good thing to do with the explosions to add a realistic feeling is the wind carring the smoke explosion.

Off course I know that the bf2 engine is not so friendly to accept a wind concept, ...
Nope, bf2 supports fully functional wind for effects.