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Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 04:00
by McBumLuv
****, can't edit, so it'll remain badly worded :? :|

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 04:09
by Mj Pain
Lol
I´ll keep it short..
0.8
soldier 20sec sprint
militia/insurgent 30sec sprint

0.85
soldier 30sec sprint
militia/insurgent ? sec sprint

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 04:09
by [uBp]Irish
nope my fault. i skipped over the last line before you quoted me.. thus thinking that you were using my post for the stuff after my quote. whoops.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 04:44
by Mj Pain
jeeao wrote:I DO have ground i stand on when i say not being able to sprint 5k in PR is ridiculous.
No i think you are ridiculous.

Sprintspeed ingame i almost 20km/h.
That means you could do 5km in 15 minutes.
Maybe you can if you´re an 50kg olympic athlete, running on a nice stadium floor.

But we´re talking about soldiers here.
With rucksack, weapon, ammo, armour and boots.
Running through thick forests or deep sand, going uphill or downhill.

You see what i mean.. It´s just not possible.

But enough on that..
Anybody knows if sprint is changed for miltia/insurgents?

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 06:07
by jeeao
Mj Pain wrote:No i think you are ridiculous.

Sprintspeed ingame i almost 20km/h.
That means you could do 5km in 15 minutes.
Maybe you can if you´re an 50kg olympic athlete, running on a nice stadium floor.

But we´re talking about soldiers here.
With rucksack, weapon, ammo, armour and boots.
Running through thick forests or deep sand, going uphill or downhill.

You see what i mean.. It´s just not possible.

But enough on that..
Anybody knows if sprint is changed for miltia/insurgents?
I am not arguing about speed ingame i am arguing about distance. You quoting myself should of all people recognize that. Yes, we are talking about soldiers here. Soldiers who train for YEARS to meet these physical expectations by running with fellow soldiers on their backs for over 5miles daily (for you euro's, a mile is rougly 1.6km). Ridiculous? I don't think so.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 06:11
by jeeao
Forgot to mention, most of the missions in PR would be undertaken by members of the Special Forces, not standard Army or marines. Take Muttrah for example, helicopter drops into AA territory? Haha, how unlikely. Special Forces are hand picked soldiers because of their superior physical performance.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 12:21
by gazzthompson
think ur confusing jogging and sprinting. i doubt its even possible for a human to sprint 5km

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 12:27
by ERASERLASER
I run 5k in 19 mins Im sure an athlete can sprint a meesley 3 miles and an elite soldier can sure enough sprint most of the way. but based on what the characters are wearing in pr I kinda agree with the new changes although I think the devs could add an extra 10 secs.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 12:31
by Rudd
put all the kit on ur back, then sprint

the guys ingame already jog

don't forget that IRL a soldier never knows if he'll be called upon to run further or faster, so he'll probably conserve stamina for when its needed, which is reflected ingame.

also makes the map seem bigger, I like more sprint than .8, .85 should be good.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 13:02
by Spec
I might remind you of the good old gameplay agrument. Nearly unlimited sprint simply isnt the point of the sprint button. Its for getting into safety quickly, not for simulating long-time runs.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 13:05
by Mj Pain
jeeao wrote:I am not arguing about speed ingame i am arguing about distance. You quoting myself should of all people recognize that. Yes, we are talking about soldiers here. Soldiers who train for YEARS to meet these physical expectations by running with fellow soldiers on their backs for over 5miles daily (for you euro's, a mile is rougly 1.6km). Ridiculous? I don't think so.
:confused: I quoted you saying not being able to sprint for 5 km was ridiculous.
But if your´re talking about sprinting for 5 miles(8km), well that´s even more ridiculous.

PR sprint = 20km/h = 12 miles/h = 5 miles in 25 minutes = ridiculous
PR jogg = 10km/h = 6 miles/h = 5 miles in 50 minutes = not ridiculous

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 15:00
by gazzthompson
the sprint in PR should ONLY be used when under fire. in which 150m worth at a go is fine. if people had a 400m sprint, they would sprint every where then come under fire and come here complain about not enough sprint anyways.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 15:55
by jeeao
Mj Pain wrote: :confused: I quoted you saying not being able to sprint for 5 km was ridiculous.
But if your´re talking about sprinting for 5 miles(8km), well that´s even more ridiculous.

PR sprint = 20km/h = 12 miles/h = 5 miles in 25 minutes = ridiculous
PR jogg = 10km/h = 6 miles/h = 5 miles in 50 minutes = not ridiculous
You can't seem to understand that those figures are NOT ridiculous. The military has to run 15miles and might i tell you that that is only BASIC training. Join any PR server any time of the day, ask a person in the squad what they think about the sprint levels and they will say it should be increased.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 16:01
by jeeao
A long distance runner can run the 8k in less than 30minutes. This is only 5k we are talking about. Soldiers are trained to fight, trained to run, trained to survive. They would be able to run that distance.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 16:01
by Wellink
jeeao wrote:You can't seem to understand that those figures are NOT ridiculous. The military has to run 15miles and might i tell you that that is only BASIC training. Join any PR server any time of the day, ask a person in the squad what they think about the sprint levels and they will say it should be increased.
I bet that lots of people say that sprint is fine, wich it is. Sprint should be used for what its name suggests, short sprints. You cant actualy walk in PR you alway jog or run wich is fine.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 16:24
by gazzthompson
jeeao wrote:You can't seem to understand that those figures are NOT ridiculous. The military has to run 15miles and might i tell you that that is only BASIC training. Join any PR server any time of the day, ask a person in the squad what they think about the sprint levels and they will say it should be increased.
they might be able to "run" 15 miles (in game PR "jog") but they cant "sprint" 15 miles, thats not humanly possible. and in PR you can "run" or "jog" for ever.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 16:55
by jeeao
Wellink wrote:I bet that lots of people say that sprint is fine, wich it is. Sprint should be used for what its name suggests, short sprints. You cant actualy walk in PR you alway jog or run wich is fine.
Lots of people will not say that it is fine. Try it, because i already have. Why do you think that the developers are increasing sprint now anyways? Because people started complaining about it.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 16:58
by jeeao
gazzthompson wrote:they might be able to "run" 15 miles (in game PR "jog") but they cant "sprint" 15 miles, thats not humanly possible. and in PR you can "run" or "jog" for ever.
This whole debate is going off-topic. I was never meaning to say that we take the sprint bar away literally, i was just trying to have people look at it a different way. Now it has just turned into a who can run 5miles fastest contest. If you people read my first few posts, you would see that I do not literally mean sprint 15miles.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 17:05
by gazzthompson
yea i dont really see what we are arguing about anymore.

but either way, people saying that in PR the soldiers are fat and lazy ect, remember one thing, the jog EVERYWHERE constantly !!!!! including sprinting !!!! they seem fit enough to me.

Re: [General] Sprint & Stamina

Posted: 2009-01-05 17:06
by arakis
jeeao wrote:This whole debate is going off-topic. I was never meaning to say that we take the sprint bar away literally, i was just trying to have people look at it a different way. Now it has just turned into a who can run 5miles fastest contest. If you people read my first few posts, you would see that I do not literally mean sprint 15miles.
by the way I can run 20m/h and have the biggest balls ever...
;-)

I 100% agree with you!!!

:shrk: