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Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 03:07
by sekiryu
The Type 89 bayonet is basically an M9 blade on an M6 hilt.

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 03:24
by Tannhauser
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=c2BVgIlhB ... re=related[/youtube]

Look from 20sec, is that a Type64 DMR setup? The recoil makes it look so, I don't think the M24 SWS has as much recoil as the Type64 judging from the same vid :p

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 03:27
by azn_chopsticks_boi
video is not working for me

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 03:28
by Panzerfire
Tannhauser wrote:
Now it does.

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 03:48
by sekiryu
Yep, that was a Type 64.

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 04:33
by Tannhauser
If we ever find the name, we'd need to know what levels of magnification that scope gives, it'd be akward if the RiflemanOptic had a longer range than the officer. (lolwut?)

Here's the link to the full page, has lots of nice stuff...
Seems like very good ref for uniforms when we'll have to texture them!

http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/010/
http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/001b/index.html
http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/002b/index.html
http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/003/index.html
http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/005/index.html
http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/009/index.html
http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/011/index.html
(what's that weird bag stitched on the Type89 of that above guy's link?)
http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/a02/index.html

Below are pictures of older camo guy holding a Type64+Bayonet, could be good for reference AREM117
http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/k01/index.html

Below image has the pointman holding a Type89 with unidentified scope :
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sekiryu can you translate the writing? I'm completely blind here o_o

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 04:36
by AREM117
Does this scope work?
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Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 04:47
by Tannhauser
Ouais désolé, je bidouille fortement quand je trouve une image comme ca, expérience de chercheur en science humaines à force haha XD

REFERENCE for Type89
http://www.special-warfare.net/data_base/204_military_rifles/assault_howa_type89.html

Agreed, scale it down a tad, overall model looks good but after observing the Type64 more and more, I think the front could use some detailing, just a bit more (textures/bumpmaps are great but I doubt they can do all the job for those type of details)
See refs below :

http://www.special-warfare.net/data_base/204_military_rifles/assault_howa_type64.html
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Here, another picture of a Type89 and.. scope?
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REFERENCE PICS of Minebea M-9

http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/g01/m04.JPG
http://www.h-sdf.org/sogu/a02/02.JPG

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 04:49
by AREM117
hows this?(smaller image)
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EDIT: 100TH POST!

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 05:22
by sekiryu
The scope on that Type 89 is most likely a reddot with little or no magnification.
sekiryu can you translate the writing? I'm completely blind here o_o
Unfortunately I only know 500 of the 2000 Chinese characters used in Japanese :/

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 05:26
by Tannhauser
****, and I thought I could ever learn to read japanese.
I was a fool! :lol:

AREM117, I commented above about the details on the front part of the Type64, needs bit o' detaling IMO, but the scope is waaay better! Looks a bit high tho.. May be just me :p

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 05:36
by sekiryu
Well, technically there's just 1,945....but that doesn't count people's names.

I've got the reference photos of my uniform, but they're too large for Imageshack.

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 05:53
by AREM117
Type 64 DMR(More Detail)
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EDIT: Fixed the charging handle.

Also here is the other side.
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Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 06:21
by sekiryu
Very nice. Just one thing: it looks like the charging handle is on the right side of the bolt, it's actually on the top sticking up vertically.

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 15:30
by Tannhauser
Below are models from the Dutch and German factions, that's the equivalent of detail you should be looking for. You're not that far from it, but there's always itsybitsy stuff that can be improven hehe :lol:

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CQB mod has different standards than PR, in PR models are nicer and better detailed than vBF2 ones. I looked at the CQG models and IMHO, they're not that great and a little boxy. (i.e. the type 89)
I think if AREM117 agrees, we should try to keep up to PR standards so that we make a good faction that looks good and plays good, rather than rush things and have somewhat unsatisfiying results later. :smile:

But again, I think advice from other community modelers/devs and the likes would be great here. Is this detailed and optimized enough? :? :

Re: [Model] Type 89

Posted: 2009-01-14 21:50
by Tannhauser
Here, found a pic showing the ironsighted Type89 while aiming

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Small but I hope it helps ;)

Here, link with tons of perspective shots of it :

http://www.h-sdf.org/main/toku89-13.html