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CAS_117 wrote:

• Firefights will not be real or fun, as long as everyone is a scoped rifleman, and not a machine gun.
• If the battle is not about important ground, you cannot have a realistic round.
• As long as your bullets go farther than you see, you cannot plan and fight realistically.
• If you want the battle slowed down a bit, just let them dig their own fighting pits.

Sry I just got back from "Reading and Composition 114.3"...

$kelet0r wrote:I can't aim.

ralfidude wrote:The above sounds feasible.


Deviation is still a mystery to me. But the way it is now is the best, i wouldnt change it.



Still, take for example this short story that happened last night, which happens ALOT.

I lay down and go into my sights with a brit gun as insurgent, i take aim and wait for a guy who knows im there. He makes the move to pop up from his cover and as soon as he does he takes one shot and kills me. I took about 2-3 shots that missed.

I was laying down... he was standing up.... distance was about 15meters. Whats up with that?

My sights were dead on by the way, at that range theres no way i should miss... but deviation while me layign down seems to be up??? Higher than his when hes standing up??? what?


By the way, i saw the bullets fly to the side, not one of them hit him. You can tell when u hit cuz their gun goes down or their body flinches for a fraction of a second. Plus you see the puff of smoke.

ralfidude wrote:The above sounds feasible.


Deviation is still a mystery to me. But the way it is now is the best, i wouldnt change it.



Still, take for example this short story that happened last night, which happens ALOT.

I lay down and go into my sights with a brit gun as insurgent, i take aim and wait for a guy who knows im there. He makes the move to pop up from his cover and as soon as he does he takes one shot and kills me. I took about 2-3 shots that missed.

I was laying down... he was standing up.... distance was about 15meters. Whats up with that?

My sights were dead on by the way, at that range theres no way i should miss... but deviation while me layign down seems to be up??? Higher than his when hes standing up??? what?


By the way, i saw the bullets fly to the side, not one of them hit him. You can tell when u hit cuz their gun goes down or their body flinches for a fraction of a second. Plus you see the puff of smoke.

No, I use my sights. When I have a scoped weapon I can make accurate shoots without using scope.

Well, thats why you need to aim...
You just stated that you can make accurate shots without aiming.

Rrrrright.

You like not being able to hit a guy that is less than a meter from you?

Simply stated because he is contradicting himself and cannot make up his mind.

T.A.Sharps wrote:
I see people like this all the time, and even I have found myself forgetting at times what I would do in RL, and I'd run through somewhere with a fresh dead body on the ground, or stand up on a roof top in a hot zone.

If you want to instill fear of death in a player there has to be real consequences that the player will fear if he gets shot.

The only solution implementable is to have a player get kicked from the server if he gets killed, maybe after 3 deaths or some # if there would be a worry about game play. It may sound extreme, but so is death.

You can do long spawn times, but then after a point I would just leave and rejoin the server.

sakils2 wrote:Well, if you would think a little bit you would've understand that I was talking about CQB (when I said that I can make accurate shoots without using scopes).

It could stall out games some I guess, and would really piss some off, but I can also see it encouraging more serious communication. I don't think those lame late night games where no one talks, or most people don't speak your language, would last so long with a death=kick rule (good? or bad?).

ralfidude wrote:WEll thiing is i didnt move at all, i was laying still and had sight up. As soon as he popped up i shot at him, it should have been exceptionally good hitting average, but out of 2 bullets fired, 0 hit.

And he got up, shot once and killed. HIS deviation should be have been much higher than mine.

I get that he head shotted me, i dont have a problem with that.

But this was a blue on blue gun fight.

i had bluefor gun with insurgent, and he was blufor with blufor gun.

When going straight up from prone position, ud think he would have had massive deviation, but the SOB still had me as soon as he was up. Not even a fraction of a second before his body showed up.

Lol, u can understand how laughable that situation is in regards to that. In any case, i still stand by the deviation to be all right and managable for now.

Jay wrote:I'm not sure this is the case, but I'm pretty sure that going from Crouching -> standing doesn't change your deviation, so maybe it's the same for prone?

T.A.Sharps wrote:The rifles act like rifles.

The people playing don't act like people getting shot at by rifles.

Most of the people here would never charge up a street that has 7.62mm rounds flying down it just for the chance that they might make it this time.

I see people like this all the time, and even I have found myself forgetting at times what I would do in RL, and I'd run through somewhere with a fresh dead body on the ground, or stand up on a roof top in a hot zone.

If you want to instill fear of death in a player there has to be real consequences that the player will fear if he gets shot.

The only solution implementable is to have a player get kicked from the server if he gets killed, maybe after 3 deaths or some # if there would be a worry about game play. It may sound extreme, but so is death.

You can do long spawn times, but then after a point I would just leave and rejoin the server.

It could stall out games some I guess, and would really piss some off, but I can also see it encouraging more serious communication. I don't think those lame late night games where no one talks, or most people don't speak your language, would last so long with a death=kick rule (good? or bad?).

I'm sure something like it has been brought up before... what do the DEVs think about death = kick?