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PSO AK-74 wouldn't take that much effort to create IMO thing as it only really involves pasting the scope from the existing SVD on the existing AK-74. Voila, new weapon.

simeon5541 wrote:You are right,it is not based on any country at all,
they are based on Chechen Rebels,and they were even called Chechens in past releases.
So their equipment resembles real Chechens.
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And who are those guys on this pictures ?
They don't look like some ex-Soviet Militants at all,
and their appearance and equipment looks somehow familiar to me . . .
Also if my memory serves me well,their faction is already in development . . .

Ive seen loads of Chechen rebels with a 'Black' ak74 with a range of accessories in all the videos of them ambushing Russians, They are too graphic for here. Presumably alot of the weapons come from dead Russian soldiers or raided arms caches, the Russians in game have black ak74 so it would make sense for the Militia to have a black ak74 based on your logic.

The guys in the pictures are Syrian and Libyans with ak103 in response to your other comment.

PSO ak would be valid for a pseudo-marksman, or alt marksman.

Anyways i dont support the addition of scopes to the militia for the reason that they are an unconventional. Now, what I mean by this is that we already have plenty of unconventional, and plenty of conventional, there is no point in turning an unconventional into a conventional. The more we change militia to be equal to the conventional, the more we diverge from the ability to make imbalanced maps like dragonfly, and iron ridge balanced, along with INS.

If you want some scopes vs. scopes, then just play a conventional map there's lotsof them, scopes vs. no scopes has a place in PR, and this is it.

robbo wrote:Ive seen loads of Chechen rebels with a 'Black' ak74 with a range of accessories in all the videos of them ambushing Russians, They are too graphic for here.

You then have extraordinary spotting abilities.

robbo wrote:Presumably alot of the weapons come from dead Russian soldiers or raided arms caches, the Russians in game have black ak74 so it would make sense for the Militia to have a black ak74 based on your logic.

In that case,give M4 to Talibans,and Tavor with Magnified Reflex to Hamas,
and don't forget to put Captured Abrams on Iraqi Insurgents side.

40mmrain wrote:Anyways i dont support the addition of scopes to the militia for the reason that they are an unconventional. Now, what I mean by this is that we already have plenty of unconventional, and plenty of conventional, there is no point in turning an unconventional into a conventional. The more we change militia to be equal to the conventional, the more we diverge from the ability to make imbalanced maps like dragonfly, and iron ridge balanced, along with INS.

If you want some scopes vs. scopes, then just play a conventional map there's lotsof them, scopes vs. no scopes has a place in PR, and this is it.

Nothing more to add to this text . . .

How about this?

The Militia has the SVD. Which has the PSO-1 scope. They also have the AK-74. I therefore can't see why it's so completely inconceivable that they could mount a PSO-1 on the AK-74, ArmA2-esque.

ShockUnitBlack wrote:How about this?

The Militia has the SVD. Which has the PSO-1 scope. They also have the AK-74. I therefore can't see why it's so completely inconceivable that they could mount a PSO-1 on the AK-74, ArmA2-esque.

Even if DEVs would do that in future,
that would spawn numbers of whining posts about
Taliban,Iraqi Insurgent and Hamas lack of optics,
immediately after implementing them on Militia's side . . .

simeon5541 wrote:You then have extraordinary spotting abilities.


In that case,give M4 to Talibans,and Tavor with Magnified Reflex to Hamas,
and don't forget to put Captured Abrams on Iraqi Insurgents side.

No, your just blind. PSO scope, GP30s and RPK mags in AKs are not hard to spot in the many Chechnya videos.






Why are you so butt hurt about having say one more kit, limited to officer with ak74m and optics? (maybe with rpk mag ) i don't see it as a bad idea.

Sgt.BountyOrig wrote:But you have also just blown yourself up there too.

Nah, I don't think that given the tight spaced militia maps.. there is much need for a scope. Maybe 2 times out of 10 will you "need" one.

Obviously you do not "need" one.

But it is nice to have that option when a friendly supply crate is nearby.

All conventional forces have this advantage of being able to request kits(including scoped rifleman kits) from mobile APC; and militia does not always have those.

ShockUnitBlack wrote:PSO AK-74 wouldn't take that much effort to create IMO thing as it only really involves pasting the scope from the existing SVD on the existing AK-74. Voila, new weapon.

Well their mounts have different height. To make it work on AK that knob on bottom of scope would need to be removed; and after fitting a SVD mount PSO-1 onto AK you still have problem aiming because it is just too low.

Would be no problem if using Romanian TIP-2 scope, though.

I have mentioned this before buy giving scope to SKS is not such a bad idea.

robbo - if you would took closer look at 2nd pic - its two standard AK 30 round mags put together with a duck tape for faster reload.

And first pic is something rare among standard generic militia guys. Would apply to marksman only.

Tottaly agree with 40mm and Simeon, militia do not need scopes.

robbo wrote:Presumably alot of the weapons come from dead Russian soldiers or raided arms caches, the Russians in game have black ak74 so it would make sense for the Militia to have a black ak74 based on your logic.

then IN-GAME kill some russians and you get a lot of those "black ak74" with scopes, and your problem is solved.

robbo wrote:No, your just blind. PSO scope, GP30s and RPK mags in AKs are not hard to spot in the many Chechnya videos.

Thanks for nice words . . .
Kill British or Russian soldier,and pick his kit,
you'll have optics you want an you'll look ingame as rebel from one of
many Chechnya videos you have watched.

robbo wrote:Why are you so butt hurt about having say one more kit, limited to officer with ak74m and optics? (maybe with rpk mag ) i don't see it as a bad idea.

Probably because each forum debate have side which don't like idea
of what same thread is proposing,
that is not RPK mag on picture you have shown.

Robbo seems like want to join the MA team, WE HAVE MILITARY ADVISERS, if this is not in game there might be some reason:

- A Military Adviser told that the faction don't use certain weapon or attachment as default IRL, if they get this from enemy weapon depot or dead soldiers don't mean they will use it every time.
- The DEVs are planning to put on a future release.
- Using the 'Captured Abrams' that the insurgents should have if you're right example, you need training to use an equipment, from weapons to planes...

Also, you can't tell anything like you have awesome weapons knowledge, the Black AKs (in PR) are AK-107 from Russian faction not the AK-74...

I dont want to join the military advisers, they do a fine job as it is. I was just trying to prove a point, i can distinguish between what defines an AK47/74/103 black AK was just a reference to the Russian's AK in game.

SShadowFox wrote: Also, you can't tell anything like you have awesome weapons knowledge, the Black AKs (in PR) are AK-107 from Russian faction not the AK-74...

Im not saying i have awesome weapon knowledge, but i can tell you the Ru defiantly dont use the AK107 ingame, yes i was aware that it was 2 mags taped together but the RPK mag is quite common to see.

Sure you're right about the Russian AK, it's the AK-103...

Im pretty sure its the AK74M, the 103 fires a 7.62x39 and has a more curved magazine very similar rifle though.

The Russians use the AK-103 on PR, the factions that use the AK-74 are the insurgents, the militia and the taliban.

No your wrong

Probably they wrote wrong because if you go into the game you'll see that the AKs that the Russians use are 103...

Your wrong just accept it. The DEV's wrote it wrong? C'mon... Google both the 74m and the 103 you will see the difference