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Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 06:06
by Wicca
!switch #4us next (switches squad 4 on the same team as you next round)

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 09:47
by RaNa-Rocxs
Filamu wrote:Rana, lets be real here. Friends want to play together. If you do a scramble that leads to me and my friends being on different team we will swap to the same side. No matter what. That goes for other groups as well. If you start banning us for playing with friends, then SSG has a problem.

That is why scramble is a fairly shit way of balancing. You are just hoping that the scramble makes something acceptable (which is just random and probably won't work) and forcing friends to not play together.

If you want to balance, find good squads and SLs and move them and adjust maps to fit. We are always willing to switch, but we want to play together.
Mr. PR do you read this?
Buttermilch25 wrote:What you mean with guys? You warned me the round before for "soloing the hat kit" (Whatever that means). I was alone all the time and saying that me alone will rip the team balance is ridiculous.
also wait for my next post with some of the awesome photos then we can see whats going on. @Dev can we post some of the logs,

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 09:53
by LiamBai
Just no IPs.


However, I agree with the previous points. If you're trying to balance, don't use scramble.

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 10:11
by RaNa-Rocxs
LiamBai wrote:Just no IPs.


However, I agree with the previous points. If you're trying to balance, don't use scramble.
No we are not using !scramble command any time we are scrambling teams to switch full squad from one team to two team or some time some with good players . ty for logs

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 10:36
by RaNa-Rocxs
Wicca wrote:!switch #4us next (switches squad 4 on the same team as you next round)

LiamBai wrote:Just no IPs.


However, I agree with the previous points. If you're trying to balance, don't use scramble.
[09:52:45 T2 SQUAD 1] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: !sw #4us next
[09:54:11 T2 SQUAD 1] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: !sw #2us next
[09:55:01 T2 SQUAD 1] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: !sw #5us next
with squad switching we are team balancing most of the time.

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 15:09
by RaNa-Rocxs
Buttermilch25 wrote:Go on post your photos, here is my point of view:

Muttrah:
I am on the fortress as MEC with the hat, intercepting incoming boats which resultet in around 20 kills at the end of the round, midgame you warn me for "soloing hatkit" so you had to assume that I am alone without any members of my clan.
Kashan:
I am MEC again, I switch to US side, join the CAS and suddenly get switched by you again without asking me beforehand. Since you refused my request to switch me back I switched myself and then I get kicked by you for switching teams. I rejoin the server on the US, join CAS again and the only thing you achieved with all your unnecessary actions is wasting my time with reloading the map.

This is not the first time you switch me and ONLY me, not my squad without asking me before, seperating me from my clanmates and when I ask to get switched back you always refuse and even threaten me with a ban. The same thing happend to other players on your server, they get switched by you, they want to get switched back to play with their friends and you threaten them with a ban if they refuse to stay. I will not name them because of the threat of getting them banned from your server by you for not wanting to play on your side.
[09:19:20 T1 SQUAD 7] Brotherscompany: !r ata can you pls swithc me??
[09:19:23 TEAM 2] Kornjaca: hat on castle
[09:19:29 T1 SQUAD 6] murakumo425: !admins
[09:19:37 T1 SQUAD 7] Brotherscompany: !admins
[09:19:53 T2 SQUAD 1] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: !w butter stop soloing kits mate
[09:19:58 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: what?
[09:20:05 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: solo kits?
[09:20:13 GLOBAL] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: some one say you are soloing hat kit
[09:20:19 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: and?
[09:21:22 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: !r utkudemir soloing rifleman
This all what happen in Muttrah City now come to Kashan Desert
[10:05:00 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: cause i was mec last round
[10:05:14 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: didnt you read the post on the feedback thread? stop switchig people without asking
[10:05:19 GLOBAL] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: i was scramble the teams
[10:05:00 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: cause i was mec last round
[10:05:19 GLOBAL] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: i was scramble the teams
[10:08:20 T1 SQUAD 1] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: !k butt team switch all the time with out ask to admins
[10:10:17 TEAM 2] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: glory open please
Thats all what happened. First of all no one switch to you when we switched 3 squads then system automatically switched you.
come to threatening yes you are doing this that on server very simple thing give respect then take respect, if you want to play on our server play respectfully. Please check your attitude level next time. If you check Muttrah City logs i am requesting to you and check your answers.
[10:05:14 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: didnt you read the post on the feedback

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 15:25
by mectus11
Just because someone says a person is soloing something, doesn't mean that the report is usually %100 accurate, the admin's job is to investigate it and ask the admins that are on the opposite team if it is correct.

Would've been smarter to put a TOW close to the coast tho, next to the corner building or ontop of it tbh.
RaNa-xXx1 wrote:If you check Muttrah City logs i am requesting to you and check your answers.
A request would be asking him if he is actually wasting that kit not warning him based on what a person says without checking up on it properly.

[10:05:00 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: cause i was mec last round
[10:05:14 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: didnt you read the post on the feedback thread? stop switchig people without asking
[10:05:19 GLOBAL] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: i was scramble the teams
[10:05:00 GLOBAL] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: cause i was mec last round
[10:05:19 GLOBAL] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: i was scramble the teams
[10:08:20 T1 SQUAD 1] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: !k butt team switch all the time with out ask to admins
[10:10:17 TEAM 2] F|WIQQ Buttermilch25: glory open please
Nobody needs your permission or the admin's permission to switch teams when it is possible for the player to manually switch himself from the spawn screen.
Look at your server rules.
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RaNa-xXx1 wrote:No we are not using !scramble command any time we are scrambling teams to switch full squad from one team to two team or some time some with good players . ty for logs
You keep contradicting yourself even though you say otherwise in your own logs, as several people have already said here, scrambling should never be the go to for balance.

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 15:47
by RaNa-Rocxs
mectus11 wrote:Just because someone says a person is soloing something, doesn't mean that the report is usually %100 accurate, the admin's job is to investigate it and ask the admins that are on the opposite team if it is correct.
A request would be asking him if he is actually wasting that kit not warning him based on what a person says without checking up on it properly.
Not some one that person have same right whats your friends have if am not confirm that then why not he can answering properly.
mectus11 wrote: You keep contradicting yourself, as several people have already said here, scrambling should never be the go to for balance.
Then you can please concentrate on your own server do you read my this post about scrambling?
Wicca wrote:!switch #4us next (switches squad 4 on the same team as you next round)

LiamBai wrote:Just no IPs.


However, I agree with the previous points. If you're trying to balance, don't use scramble.
[09:52:45 T2 SQUAD 1] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: !sw #4us next
[09:54:11 T2 SQUAD 1] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: !sw #2us next
[09:55:01 T2 SQUAD 1] (SSG) RaNa-XXX: !sw #5us next
RaNa-xXx1 wrote:with squad switching we are team balancing most of the time.

Do you know what's the meaning of this? upon the admin's judgment to allow the switch or not.
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Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 16:03
by johanhan
metus i suggest you try understand the meaning of the rule
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Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 16:43
by mectus11
johanhan wrote:metus i suggest you try understand the meaning of the rule
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ ... nknown.png
Clearly says teamswitching is allowed unless both teams have equal numbers. I suggest you rewrite that rule to make it so teamswitching is only allowed by admins if that is what you want.
RaNa-xXx1 wrote: Then you can please concentrate on your own server do you read my this post about scrambling?
You obviously say you switch squads but then you do the opposite in-game and you scramble.

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-07 22:39
by Filamu
Well, he has switched me and my squads the last times Ive played so, its not like scramble is a go to, even if it happened once or twice.

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-12 16:00
by LiamBai
I don't know what it is, people say this all the time, but it still doesn't get through.


Please do not switch clans to balance mid round unless they agree to it. Today we had three guys out of my squad switched to the enemy team a few minutes into the game.
This ruined our squad, presumably ruined their game, and meant that they had no chance to get any assets or maybe even a squad space on the enemy team.
The balance was shocking for at least a whole round before that, but nobody did anything. There was no discussion of balance, no asking clans to switch next, just zero effort at all. Then after the next round starts the admins do the switching.

Facilitating good balance is one thing an admin should do, but they shouldn't have to fuck up the rounds of people unnecessarily to do this.

This whole problem can be solved by thinking and communicating, but it seems that these two skills are somewhat lacking where needed.

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-12 16:14
by faul
Liam you asked me to balance the game RIGHT?
first of all stop trying to make a mess it was not middle of round it was right after round was started thats your first false accusation

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-12 16:20
by LiamBai
Yes, but they quit after you switched them, so your attempt at balancing didn't really do anything other than make people leave.

I mean I could be more respectful, but you're also showing no respect to them, switching them out of the blue during a round without even making any effort to communicate with them. There were other admins there who could've done it and you had the whole previous round to aswell.

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-12 16:26
by faul
Clearly says teamswitching is allowed unless both teams have equal numbers. Iteamswitching is only allowed by admins if that is needed
i could have help you guys after switch instead you guys showing lack of respect i could help you guys thats what i do after all
and i did it when the round started because my game crashed as soon as i joined i switched them
secondly instead of yelling andmaking a noise you could have told me you had your asset and i ve could arrange something im not trying to make you uncomfortable or troll
and you cant judge me by one thing i can show you lots of time that i ve help you our someone like you so dont be judgemental if you dont know me or what i do
LiamBai wrote: you had the whole previous round to aswell.
so you want me to switch them in the middle of round ?
you are contradicting yourself mate :)

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-12 16:31
by RaNa-Rocxs
faul wrote:Clearly says teamswitching is allowed unless both teams have equal numbers. Iteamswitching is only allowed by admins if that is needed
i could have help you guys after switch instead you guys showing lack of respect i could help you guys thats what i do after all
and i did it when the round started because my game crashed as soon as i joined i switched them
secondly instead of yelling andmaking a noise you could have told me you had your asset and i ve could arrange something im not trying to make you uncomfortable or troll
and you cant judge me by one thing i can show you lots of time that i ve help you our someone like you so dont be judgemental if you dont know me or what i do
nothing to worry just ask them can I switch you guys for team balance before switch.

Re: SSG Multi-Gaming Clan.

Posted: 2018-09-12 16:39
by faul
anyway both sides made mistakes you guys are right something like this will never happen again .