[R-CON]ReadMenace wrote:While I was gone at work, this thread went from silly to absolutely ridiculous.
Highlights include:
Adrenaline increases fine motor skill function. (Contrary to biology -- but maybe Judge is super human.)
Love effects the function of a firearm.
US, UK and French Made AKs (Granted there is the CIA Centurion 39, and some of Arsenal Inc.'s rifles.)
The Straight-Pull "AK103" with 8x optic hitting the broad side of a TANK at 1000m (How does that pertain to the topic?)
All of this and more!
This aside, I continue to stand by my assertion -- the AK47 in-game is more than adequately represented.
There are a wide variety of people on the DEV team, including various Active/Reserve/Ex-Military personnel, and more than one avid shooter. Maybe all of their combined knowledge and experience has come together to in attempts to accurately represent a wide variety small arms in regards to reality and game-play -- or maybe we should consider a love-meter, decreased deviation during suppression and 2moa AKs.
-REad
Or maybe we could extend a response with a bunch of ridiculous hyperbole.
The AK-47 and the 7.62 round is OBVIOUSLY something you've never once fired in your life, yet you reply as though you have some kind of knowledge on the subject. Anyone who has fired both rounds represented in PR can tell you that the differences between the two are highly exaggerated in the game's current state.
Anyone who tells you differently exposes themselves not to have experience with both rounds. Nobody is saying that the 7.62 is as accurate as the 5.56, the contention is simply that PR multiplies it by a factor that no amount of "adrenaline induced inaccuracy" would invoke while not equally harming the lighter round.
People who try to ascribe this amount of accuracy to the 5.56 sound like the same people who talk about samurai swords chopping down trees. The measure by which the 5.56 is more accurate than the 7.62x39 would not be expressed as frequently and as powerfully as it is in PR.
look at the table that was posted above:
Rifle Trajectory Table
It's a 2.5 inch difference at 100 yards between the two rounds. You can't just say "adrenaline multiplies this" because MoA is calculated as Shooter MoA + Rifle MoA, not multiplied. If you give the shooters equal MoA, the difference stays the same.
If you are giving a huge bonus to the USMC shooter MoA against the Taliban, the game is just expressing a lopsided world-view, without actually collating any data (unless there's a Taliban or other Insurgent faction accuracy test that's been published to compare against average USMC shooters).
Go to youtube. Type AK-47 at 100 yards. Watch people shoot skeet clays resting at 100 yards. Is your head smaller than a skeet clay? Okay. How much are we saying that the "adrenaline" adds to the end MoA? 6 inches? 7 MoA vs. 10 MoA isn't that big of a difference at 100 yards.
Anyway, there's data and audio-visual evidence galore that talk about the difference between these two rounds being a "few inches" at 100-200 yards. The game is clearly not representing that. There ya have it.
