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Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-08-28 10:38
by Wakain
Alek-say wrote:Arisaka? What about Mossin Nagant?
have you ever seen an arisaka in a vietnam war game? the mosin nagant m91/31 was featured in bf:v and is pretty much well-known for it's use in the vietnam war.

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-08-28 15:36
by Alek-say
Also, there should be M1 Carbine, XM117 (CAR-15), M2 Browning...

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-08-29 16:01
by Tarranauha200
Uh, wanst CAR-15 just used in small numbers and not by regular infantry?

After all its not project navysealswatbondblackspecialopsciafbisupersquad.

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-08-29 16:19
by Alek-say
Yes, it's: "runidiotstankisnearwhotakemykitmedicwhereisthisstupidmedicyeahwewonornot"!

Also, there is a good information about weapons that were used in Vietnam's conflict:
Weapons of the Vietnam War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-16 11:24
by Matrox
Alek-say wrote:Yes, it's: "runidiotstankisnearwhotakemykitmedicwhereisthisstupidmedicyeahwewonornot"!

Also, there is a good information about weapons that were used in Vietnam's conflict:
Weapons of the Vietnam War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This is good, as it looks like a vast majority of weapons can simply be reskinned and turned into vietnam era weapons.

Very good.

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-16 11:38
by Alek-say
[R-DEV]Matrox wrote:This is good, as it looks like a vast majority of weapons can simply be reskinned and turned into vietnam era weapons.

Very good.
Yes, it is. But what about these weapons: Thompson M1A1, M3 Greaze etc?

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-16 11:57
by Matrox
I think EOD has those weapons? At least from what I can remember, which makes life around 10 times easier as well!

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-16 12:19
by Tarranauha200
Maybe decrease accuracy just a bit to simulate poor maintenence and not that good training?

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-16 13:17
by Alek-say
Maybe. We will see it soon, I guess.

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-17 19:57
by Alek-say
What about M202?
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Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-17 21:21
by Tarranauha200
Hell no!

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-18 12:48
by Wakain
Tarranauha200 wrote:Hell no!
+1

@Aleksay: that was an experimental spec ops weapon and if I'm correct it wasn't produced in large quantities. on spec ops the same rules apply here as with PR vanilla

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-18 13:07
by Alek-say
Okay. Roger that.

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-18 14:00
by AfterDune
Wasn't that weapon in Soldier Of Fortune? :D

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-22 16:57
by ytman
I know its in TF2 ^_^

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-26 22:54
by -CAL ACO-
[R-DEV]Ninja2dan wrote:The "CAR-15" was the later designation, during the war it was mostly referred to as the XM-177. The name CAR-15 is actually used to refer to all carbine variants of the series, now called the M4 family. The XM-177 was the earlier model with a very easy-to-identify style of flash hider. There are a few variants of the XM-177 series, namely having different barrel lengths and forward assist. But the units who actually used the XM-177 series during the Vietnam war were usually just Army SF and some SEALs. They were not commonly issued to regulars.

This is mostly correct. During the war the M1 carbine was rarely seen except in the hands of the South Vietnamese. Some SF units were known to use the M2 carbine in limited quantities, but like several other weapons they were not seen in use by regulars.


I do see some problems with the flamethrower. As mentioned they were not used as commonly as they were during WWII, and were mostly used for special missions. I can see them being of use only on certain maps and as a specialty request kit, or maybe as a rare hidden pickup kit, but we've seen the problems that those lead to.


A lot of the weapons that would be used by regular forces are either in game now or in the works. Most common for the US would be the M16A1, M14, M60, M1911, and maybe the M1D or M21 (depending on year of action). Other weapons such as shotguns and specialty kits would be available too, but used less often.


My only wish is that if the US Navy SEALs are to become a faction at some point, the Stoner 63 would be available as a limited kit option. Although it was used in only a limited basis, it's still by far my favorite weapon system. It needs some love.
if the ARVN is included as a faction, the M1/M2 carbine should definitely be an alternate kit weapons since the US gave large numbers of M1 series carbines to the south Vietnamese.
other than that i would like to see the US using:
M16A1, M14, XM177E2(officers kit), M1911A1, Remington 700, Ithaca 37, M3A1 grease gun(vehicle crews), M72 LAW, M60, M1918A2 BAR, Mk 21(M1919 in 7.62 NATO), M134, M2HB
Australia:
L1A1, L2A1, L2A1 *****, Browning Hi-power, Owen SMG, Lee-Enfield, Bren gun(7.62 NATO conversion, Vicker heavy MG
NVA and Vietcong:
Type 56, SKS, Mosin-Nagant(sniper), SVD(marksmen), MAT-49, MAS-49, FM 24/29, K50M, RPD, RPK, Makarov PM TT-33, CZ-52, DP LMG, MG-34(vietcong only), DShK, PPS-43, RPG-2, RPG-7, B-10 recoilless rifle, PK MG

this not a complete list, just as many as i could think of and check for historical accuracy

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-26 23:00
by -CAL ACO-
Wakain wrote:I would like to see no spec ops or other exotic weapons. and guess what? I've got a feeling I won't be dissapointed ;)

genuinely on-topic though: arisaka(w/ bayonet) for VC.
arisaka(w/ bayonet)?!?!?!?!?
uh...... that brings back terrifying memories of World at Wars campaign

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-28 11:46
by Alek-say
What about tribute to the old good "Battlefield: Vietnam"? To make the tiger skin of M79 for the alternative grenadier:
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Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-28 17:53
by Tarranauha200
Cmon, stop it. There is not gonny be any cool skins, cool music or flametrowers.

Just basic guns used by grunts.

Re: Weapons desired in PR:Vietnam

Posted: 2011-09-28 18:16
by Alek-say
Tarranauha200 wrote:Cmon, stop it. There is not gonny be any cool skins, cool music or flametrowers.

Just basic guns used by grunts.
So, there are some easter eggs like DICE-Cream and Karkand Air Lines on the boards, but no tiger skin for a grenade launcher?