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Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-05 17:47
by Vincento94
'atom9[CH wrote:;2113777']Great server but needs more admins on it. I had already rounds where not even a single admin was online and this sucks a bit.
We are in the process of recruiting more admins.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-06 13:31
by dutch
Worst experience ever on this server and not the first time.
Yesterday was a all-time low. People on MEC side did not want to play Mutrah and one stepped up to be commander, he actually ordered suicides. And it was followed up by multiple people.
I reported it several times but as always no response from the admin present on this server, in fact even from the opposite USA side people where supporting the stuff that went on.
We left as soon spots where open at NEW Era and there we got the experience PR is made for. If you let people destroy the fun for others and simply ignore reports and do nothing, why run a server? Also on NWA the experience is that there is no communication by playing the last weeks.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-06 13:55
by Vincento94
dutch wrote:Worst experience ever on this server and not the first time.
Yesterday was a all-time low. People on MEC side did not want to play Mutrah and one stepped up to be commander, he actually ordered suicides. And it was followed up by multiple people.
I reported it several times but as always no response from the admin present on this server, in fact even from the opposite USA side people where supporting the stuff that went on.
We left as soon spots where open at NEW Era and there we got the experience PR is made for. If you let people destroy the fun for others and simply ignore reports and do nothing, why run a server? Also on NWA the experience is that there is no communication by playing the last weeks.
This was your worst experience you ever had? People suiciding cause they don't like the map?
Looking at the logs you made this report:
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2016-01-05 21:23:57: R performed by ' [F|H]dutchy': commander aldi ordering people to suicide cause hates the map people obeying that shit
That was the only report made for what you said is the worst experience you ever had in the history of NwA
As you said yourself
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2016-01-05 21:19:46: R performed by ' [F|H]dutchy': admin srry your message was 1 second could not read it
Perhaps it would have been smart to report it multiple times as admins are not superhumans and sometimes miss the report too.
I have not seen you complain about your previous bad experiences on our forums or on here so how would you expect us to improve anything without proper feedback.
About the no communication is a issue we are actively trying to counter, we have already started removing freeroam squads that do not contribute to the team. If you find a squad not communicating i'd suggest you report it (multiple times if a admin doesn't respond, again we're not superhumans) and we will do our best to deal with them.
I hope I have answered your concerns
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-06 15:34
by dutch
I do not have concerns, I come here because you have a server topic and so I can share the worst experience for me ever in pr, yes. Strange you take it so lightly. I never witnessed mass suicide ordered by smacktards to ruin a round.
I complained more then that, also in allchat, but after receiving answers from the smacktards on your server i immediately gave up, especially because the admin was not bothered. And you do not need to be a super human to admin a server, in the 8+ years I play, I play on many other servers and in the past also on NWA where it is and was not a problem for the admin to act when he sees, reports and allchat about bad stuff that goes on.
You see, I said I have no concerns, but I play PR for the total experience it gives me, the awesome teamwork, communication and veterans that play the game, one reason to get all this are good servers with good admins.
It simply is pathetic when smacktards get the overhand on a server and killing the experience of people that come for a good round or more. To me it is disgusting that people are ordered to suicide to end a round and the admins, and you here, do not make a big deal out of it.
Now, I made this topic to make you aware, NWA bought a server, opened it for public and made this topic, so my guess is you care about it, or not? Hence I make this post. So in a way, to help you, if you do something with it is not very important to me, cause there are of course other servers. And I am sharing this here to make other real PR players aware to avoid your server if this is the standard. It sucks cause your server was the only one that had slots for me and the buddies.
So to avoid a discussion, this is the last I say about it, do with it what you want, but stay cool cause this thread is for the people that praise your server and the ones, like me, that do not praise it, and share a very bad experience. It was indeed an all-time low, what I experienced on your non communicative server yesterday.
PR is teamwork, communication, playing for the flags and the team together and admins make sure smacktards are dealt with.
All the best and take it easy gabber!
Posted: 2016-01-07 00:13
by matty1053
Played a round and a half today. Was a hell hole. Kokan. Two squads were wasting tickets on a cache in a basement. Literally one squad alone probably gave up 130 tickets. Thank god the round ended fast though.
Fallujah... well Idk. Wish you guys played different maps. Was OK....
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-07 01:14
by iglotruck
matty1053 wrote:Played a round and a half today. Was a hell hole. Kokan. Two squads were wasting tickets on a cache in a basement. Literally one squad alone probably gave up 130 tickets. Thank god the round ended fast though.
That has nothing to do with the server itself, it's something you'll see everywhere.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-07 06:27
by matty1053
iglotruck wrote:That has nothing to do with the server itself, it's something you'll see everywhere.
Yes, I know. But I am just giving feedback of my experiences with NwA.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-07 15:32
by Aleon
To be honest, the evening rounds on 2016-01-05 (Muttah and the following ones, mentioned by dutch) were in fact really poorly administrated. The served had a pretty serious hickup, something broke and from the beginning of the said Muttrah match no automatic teamswaps were performed. We had admins online but, my team still ended up playing MEC three times in a row. I can totally see how missing a single report is easy, but failing to realize that teams are not swapped? Me and other people pointed out that a !swapteams could solve the problem in a single line. Since the squads persisted from the previous rounds, by the briefing of the following round, some of the admins realied that something broke. Instead of swapping teams however, they just decided to !resign a bunch of people in their "early squads" and then kept on playing as if everything was fine.
Don't know who exactly was online, I don't even care because that's not the point, but this night left me with an impression that a part of your admin team has no clue about what they are doing.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-08 20:53
by Vincento94
Aleon wrote:To be honest, the evening rounds on 2016-01-05 (Muttah and the following ones, mentioned by dutch) were in fact really poorly administrated. The served had a pretty serious hickup, something broke and from the beginning of the said Muttrah match no automatic teamswaps were performed. We had admins online but, my team still ended up playing MEC three times in a row. I can totally see how missing a single report is easy, but failing to realize that teams are not swapped? Me and other people pointed out that a !swapteams could solve the problem in a single line. Since the squads persisted from the previous rounds, by the briefing of the following round, some of the admins realied that something broke. Instead of swapping teams however, they just decided to !resign a bunch of people in their "early squads" and then kept on playing as if everything was fine.
Don't know who exactly was online, I don't even care because that's not the point, but this night left me with an impression that a part of your admin team has no clue about what they are doing.
I believe the server bugged out and stopped swapping teams on round start for some reason, the admins (on prism) were confused as to what was going on. To my knowledge this has not happened before. After the muttrah round I instructed admins to do a manual !swapteams on round start. I'm sorry you had a bad experience I have instructed all admins to manually use the !swapteams command if the server fails to do it.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-11 22:03
by FFG
We've had that bug a couple times on BASED NA & EU. It normally fixes itself after a restart. Have a chat with Clund or thenis about it. They probably know more on it.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-11 22:11
by Vincento94
FFG wrote:We've had that bug a couple times on BASED NA & EU. It normally fixes itself after a restart. Have a chat with Clund or thenis about it. They probably know more on it.
It was fine after a restart, has not happened since. Strange..
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-19 12:57
by Mats391
Had some really unbalanced rounds in the past days. Not enjoyable at all if you are on the side getting stomped. We tried to balance by switching with our squad, but no point if at same time others switch to keep stacking

On the plus side the server seems very stable. Only the long loading times between maps are a bit annoying, but totally fine if you are not greeted with "connection lost"

Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-19 13:01
by STompa
[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:Had some really unbalanced rounds in the past days. Not enjoyable at all if you are on the side getting stomped. We tried to balance by switching with our squad, but no point if at same time others switch to keep stacking

On the plus side the server seems very stable. Only the long loading times between maps are a bit annoying, but totally fine if you are not greeted with "connection lost"
The problem is that the NWA admins use !scramble. Which never works. Because clans will still switch to one side to play together. The proper way of balancing is asking + switching one clan over to the losing side on the next round.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-19 13:16
by Vincento94
[quote=""'[R-DEV"]Mats391;2115028']Had some really unbalanced rounds in the past days. Not enjoyable at all if you are on the side getting stomped. We tried to balance by switching with our squad, but no point if at same time others switch to keep stacking

On the plus side the server seems very stable. Only the long loading times between maps are a bit annoying, but totally fine if you are not greeted with "connection lost"

[/quote]
[quote="STompa""]The problem is that the NWA admins use !scramble. Which never works. Because clans will still switch to one side to play together. The proper way of balancing is asking + switching one clan over to the losing side on the next round.[/quote]
I will instruct the admins to stay away from !scramble and balance the teams manually.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-20 19:59
by UTurista
Making a vote between AAS, Insurgency and Vietname is hardly a balanced one, when its obvious that the AAS votes will be divided between AAS and Vietnam.
Really dislike when its obvious that the admin team wants to play map/gamemode X and makes such a vote to create a sense of "democracy".
/rant
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-20 21:35
by Vincento94
'[R-CON wrote:UTurista;2115161']Making a vote between AAS, Insurgency and Vietname is hardly a balanced one, when its obvious that the AAS votes will be divided between AAS and Vietnam.
Really dislike when its obvious that the admin team wants to play map/gamemode X and makes such a vote to create a sense of "democracy".
/rant
I can assure you that has nothing to do with admin preference just merely something we do every couple of mapvotes. We are not running mapvotes to create a sense of democracy we run mapvotes to get the next map to be liked by a majority of players.
I find it rather rude that you immediately jump the gun and accuse us of rigging the mapvotes for our own benefit, perhaps a better post would have been to question why we did it that way and proposing a better way for us to handle it.
Perhaps we need to stop with trying out new things as people like you jump on our backs immediately when something changes.
Thank you for leaving your feedback
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-21 14:38
by UTurista
I may have been rude but the truth is that these votes are not common which is good but it also means that when they happen I can only assume they were intentional.
I'm in no saying the server is awful and the admin team is not competent, in fact I've seen good votes carried by the admins including a re-vote for AAS/Insurgency because people complaint that they didn't saw the vote (INS won 1st, AAS won 2nd by a huge diference).
Therefor I can only maintain my view that that particular vote was rigged, which made me "angry" because the server population at that time seemed perfect for a AAS round and I was really looking forward for an awesome evening, unfortunately that didn't happen.
This being said if indeed that was an honest mistake done by the admin team then I urge you guys to avoid this situation on future votes. I quite enjoy the server but these votes do really bother me, this is why I immediately wrote this, not to bash but just because there's servers that employ this tactic in a more common way and I really don't want this to be a thing on NWA.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-21 14:58
by Vincento94
[R-CON]UTurista wrote:I may have been rude but the truth is that these votes are not common which is good but it also means that when they happen I can only assume they were intentional.
I'm in no saying the server is awful and the admin team is not competent, in fact I've seen good votes carried by the admins including a re-vote for AAS/Insurgency because people complaint that they didn't saw the vote (INS won 1st, AAS won 2nd by a huge diference).
Therefor I can only maintain my view that that particular vote was rigged, which made me "angry" because the server population at that time seemed perfect for a AAS round and I was really looking forward for an awesome evening, unfortunately that didn't happen.
This being said if indeed that was an honest mistake done by the admin team then I urge you guys to avoid this situation on future votes. I quite enjoy the server but these votes do really bother me, this is why I immediately wrote this, not to bash but just because there's servers that employ this tactic in a more common way and I really don't want this to be a thing on NWA.
Don't really play on different servers that much so don't know about their way of handling mapvotes, these gamemode votes that included vietnam were just a way to get vietnam maps occasionally played on the server for the people that like them/do not mind to play them and really just offer something for the entire PR playerbase. But I will definitely discuss this with the rest of the admins to just keep it so when AAS wins vietnam maps can be suggested and put on the vote alongside normal maps.
I definitely see the point you were attempting to get across but I can assure you if any foul play is attempted from any admin they will be gone in an instant.
Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-22 00:34
by Nate.
Balance was horrible all night, one team won every single round. It was pointed out multiple times, to which your admins replied "49v49 is balanced, what's the problem?". There is much more to team balance than numbers. It was a massive clanstack and we raped 4 consecutive rounds (2x AAS, 2x INS) without any actions being taken by the admins.
Have a look into that and your server will be even better

Re: *NwA* UK Reality (Europe)
Posted: 2016-01-27 22:13
by mries
Hi there,
This evening I got banned from NWA, because I totally accidentally shot my LAT (and hit friendlies and or a vehicle, I am not sure what I hit because I got TK'ed directly after that by somebody(what I can understand)) when I wanted to change the rangesetting to 100m in main base directly at start of the round, I really do not know how it happened and I felt really stupid. Probably accidently clicked my mouse.
It was on the Khamishyah map around 20:00pm today. US side, playername: Mries
I thought I was tempbanned but after an hour or so I tried to rejoin and couldn't.
I would like to get unbanned, I am a regular serious PR player and it was not my intention to grief/troll or intentional tk.
Thanks in advance,