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I absolutely love your guys's map choices, very good choices!!
(Especially seeing Black Gold playing right now, I'm bummed I cannot be on currently!! )

thanks matty!

__Super_6__5__ wrote:while i didnt read your post danger, dont care too and its way too long. but some points. This should be on our forums, not here.

Its funny actually, here you complain about admins, i tell you that you being a guest admin is probably not going to work. you leave and now troll our admins in game?

Sounds like a setup to me.

You should know that you shouldnt argue or troll in the server, you just wouldnt let it go.

Tell me, WHAT does arguing in a game server serve?

I think your mad over your guest admin thing.

Fellas, ITS JUST A GAME, yall really need to relax a bit, seriously, you so pissed off because they restarted the server? wow, grow up.

good day to you.

this post made me sad

I've given up reporting issues on hog, they just go unanswered in game - their forums are a nightmare to navigate and are draining on the eyes.

It's sad that you tell everyone with negative feedback to go to your forums, when it takes so long to get approved to post. - by which time most people have lost motivation/drive to post about the issue. But i suppose that cuts out a bit of work on a clearly understaffed admin team.

But it appears what brezman is saying you're taking some steps in the right direction - i just wish a website redesign would happen. It honestly looks like a geocities site from like 1998.

If that were to happen, i'd even forgive you guys for hosting your server on the east coast.

actually, we have made progress towards the website issue. it is dated and we had a clan meeting about it and other things a few weeks ago and we are working to replace it.

With the amount of spam these days and servers (us included) not using pnkbuster as they once did, it takes more time to approve website requests as we have to keep out the spammers. On top of that its the main admins that handle that and it can take awhile, apologies for that. One thing others have done is send me a pm, thats instant verification and they are approved within a very short time.

i have lost armor, squads and tactical advantages tending to admin issues, that point being that sometimes we are busy and miss the messages. If an admin is intentionally not tending to things then he will be removed but if i dont know about it then it wont happen.

Dr_Death wrote:how about keeping one admin at least as a commander or as more of an idle position to keep time to answer reports?

No one wants to do that, people are here to play the game.. not play nanny.
It's about having the right amount of admins, can't have too many cooks though.

Good to hear you're upgrading your website super! hopefully sooner rather than later.

Dr_Death wrote:how about keeping one admin at least as a commander or as more of an idle position to keep time to answer reports?

There are a few admins who actually do this. Pierre sits idle in more games than he plays, especially in the late night US hours when the server transitions from US players going to bed and EU players waking up and repopulating the server.

If all else fails, send a !report anyways. I know Super checks the logs and I get on every now and then and see what I missed in the chat logs. We probably ban more people for breaking rules when admins aren't on than when they are.

HOG needs a restart (jun 3rd 04:46 PRT) ; invisible kits bug on Muttrah, no admins on at the moment, and my guest admin rights apparently aren't active at the moment.

EDIT: apparently the server crashed.

Yea Jafar, i think you need to send your new hash to Super as a PM

Will do! Via PR forums, HOG forums, either, or both?

If you are signed up on the hog website i'd suggest sending it there

Your admins are overzealous and enforce non-existent rules. Me and a friend were kicked for "asset stealing" earlier today while driving the Russian Shturm ATGM vehicle. The admin claimed we were stealing an APC from the APC squad even though the Shturm is incapable of carrying infantry and there's nothing in your rules stating that ATGM vehicles are classified as APCs on your server.

"Tracked APC and Wheeled APC's are to be combined with a minimum of 6 squad members before being locked and must be named APC, this squad will encompass ALL Armored Pers. Carriers including IFV's"

That rule and others can be found here in case you missed it: =HOG=: PR Server Rules

thanks for the heads up, based on your post it appears the admins acted appropriately.

thanks!

Well Firepower i can see what you mean seeing as it doesn't carry any infantry, in fact, taking the Armored Personnel Carrier to a Armored tank hunter, basically.

To make it simple. everything that is a armored vehicle and clearly isn't a tank, goes as APC, the exception being the AAV(Not the AAVP-7) as the CAS squad can use it if its not already taken by the APC squad.

Firepower01 wrote:Your admins are overzealous and enforce non-existent rules. Me and a friend were kicked for "asset stealing" earlier today while driving the Russian Shturm ATGM vehicle. The admin claimed we were stealing an APC from the APC squad even though the Shturm is incapable of carrying infantry and there's nothing in your rules stating that ATGM vehicles are classified as APCs on your server.

There are some light armored vehicles that aren't a part of the APC squad classification. Spandrels, BDRMs, Crows Humvees, and AA vehicles are all available for any squad to use. A Shturm is a tracked vehicle that falls under the APC squad category on HOG. It can be a little confusing but we have to make due with 9 squads and more assets than squad slots.

__Super_6__5__ wrote:"Tracked APC and Wheeled APC's are to be combined with a minimum of 6 squad members before being locked and must be named APC, this squad will encompass ALL Armored Pers. Carriers including IFV's"

That rule and others can be found here in case you missed it: =HOG=: PR Server Rules

thanks for the heads up, based on your post it appears the admins acted appropriately.

thanks!

Nowhere in that rule does it say that ATGM vehicles are classified as APCs. The Shturm ATGM vehicle doesn't have any slots aside from the gunner and the driver so it can hardly be considered an Armored Personnel Carrier. If you guys are going to enforce that as a rule then you should clarify that in the rules. It's incredibly frustrating to get kicked for "breaking the rules" when there isn't really a rule about that at all.

Tequila wrote:There are some light armored vehicles that aren't a part of the APC squad classification. Spandrels, BDRMs, Crows Humvees, and AA vehicles are all available for any squad to use. A Shturm is a tracked vehicle that falls under the APC squad category on HOG. It can be a little confusing but we have to make due with 9 squads and more assets than squad slots.

The Spandrel is basically the same thing as a Shturm just on a BRDM chassis instead... It doesn't sound like you guys have really come to a consensus on this at all.

Edit: Also I wish to apologize to the admin that kicked me. On the server I was pretty rude to him before he kicked me. I was frustrated at the time because he wouldn't respond to me on the server.

Firepower01 wrote:Nowhere in that rule does it say that ATGM vehicles are classified as APCs. The Shturm ATGM vehicle doesn't have any slots aside from the gunner and the driver so it can hardly be considered an Armored Personnel Carrier. If you guys are going to enforce that as a rule then you should clarify that in the rules. It's incredibly frustrating to get kicked for "breaking the rules" when there isn't really a rule about that at all.



The Spandrel is basically the same thing as a Shturm just on a BRDM chassis instead... It doesn't sound like you guys have really come to a consensus on this at all.

Edit: Also I wish to apologize to the admin that kicked me. On the server I was pretty rude to him before he kicked me. I was frustrated at the time because he wouldn't respond to me on the server.

Yeah, sorry it gets confusing sometimes. You'll get the hang of it though. If nothing else, you can always as the admins in game if you think something is in the gray area.

Good Afternoon,

Ok, here's some positive feedback that evidently hasn't really made it into this forum in a single post for awhile.

I've played on HOG for years. Now, I am anti-admin most of the time as a general rule. I use this terminology in the sense of, I would love to drive 90+mph down the freeway and hate the copper sitting there handing out tickets. Now with that in mind, they are needed for the safety of others that are driving rat-traps thinking they can go 90+mph that are in danger of falling apart on the road killing everyone in their path.

Here is one thing that I have noticed about PR in general, we are a bunch of old farts that like the action as well as the strategy. The younger guys just want action without thinking too hard.

Ok, back to my positive. I make it a point to get into squads with admins across the board. Learn how the admins think when they play. Interact with them on a more social basis instead of game basis. I have found out that HOG admins are human. We all have bad days and good days. ALWAYS check to see which admin is online and modify your behavior accordingly. I say that to say this, there are some admins that absolutely do not like text across the screen in all chat and sometimes even team chat. I often refer to these guys as owners of Jerry Jones (Dallas Cowboys owner) flip phones who don't text and still have a house phone with a rotary dial.

I have found HOG admins to be fair to those who want to play a well rounded match and know the rules. You make the choice to abide by the rules when you join the server. The rules are just that, rules. Don't overthink it as it really and truly just a game. What will it matter in a hundred years or next week for that matter.

I would like to thank the admin that set Saaremaa Infantry layer tonight around 23:00 EST. It was one of the best recent rounds that I've played! Thanks to the PRwars guys and my trusty LAT for some very memorable moments.

DesmoLocke wrote:I would like to thank the admin that set Saaremaa Infantry layer tonight around 23:00 EST. It was one of the best recent rounds that I've played! Thanks to the PRwars guys and my trusty LAT for some very memorable moments.

that was PRTA