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Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 12:06
by Psyko
Its weird though that you say you cant expect this to happen and you also claim no business has a plan?
I know businesses have a long and short time plan. But a business would be foolish to assume success. the actions of third parties and other influances present failures/obsticals in almost every aspect. Im not saying i know it all, im just saying, that much seems obvious.
Not obliging these can and most certainly will get you fired putting you in more trouble of the food on the table kind.
well i was sort of talking about a management decision, if i was a desk jockey i dont think i would stick my neck out that far in a corperation. management make tough decisions all the time, and i dont think 128 players in an old video game falls into that catagory
And 1000 bucks will hardly feed anyone in DICE.
I agree, yet i dont know their salary, but having said that, "gameplay tweaks" are NOT worth that much. i'v seen the rate at which games become redundant, and im sure you have too. You cant tell me that changing the code on a small aspect of a game is worth that much. come on. who are you fooling, the population of BF2 will dwindle to nothing within 2 years. and the price of the game had fallen to like five dollars in the last 6 months.
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 12:18
by cyberzomby
Psykogundam wrote:I agree, yet i dont know their salary, but having said that, "gameplay tweaks" are NOT worth that much. i'v seen the rate at which games become redundant, and im sure you have too. You cant tell me that changing the code on a small aspect of a game is worth that much. come on. who are you fooling, the population of BF2 will dwindle to nothing within 2 years. and the price of the game had fallen to like five dollars in the last 6 months.
I have to agree

They said so themselves its only a minor tweak. Can only agree with the rest of your post as well.
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 12:21
by Psyko
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because im epic
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 19:01
by l|Bubba|l
Official Poll for Patch 1.5
Dolphin Diving - Electronic Arts UK Community
Write that you want additional deviation for a short time after getting into the prone position instead of a larger delay between jumping and prone.
PR needs this value.
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 19:11
by Psyko
we can mod that on our own, lol. BF2 needs that
edit:
After i read the dolphin diving topic, i discovered i had a different view on it from my initial thoughts.
Why...do we....want....to change vanilla?
There is no logical reason why we should impose on a game that others favor. they like the style and whoever plays amongst them likes the style too. otherwise they would see the EA message of the day and download PR.
This much is obvious to me. If i was going to give my opinion on their forums, i would say .3
why? because i dont mind/care. they can play it whatever way they want. but in any case im not going to share my opinion with the vanilla community, but i'll share it with you guys.
And if i was going to give my opinion about stuff on their site, i would ask them to fix modder roadblocks so that it makes modder's job easier.
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 19:16
by l|Bubba|l
Psykogundam wrote:we can mod that on our own, lol. BF2 needs that
No, we can't.
We can set the existing values to what ever we want but we can't add new values.
The value for the jump-prone delay is actually 2 seconds in PR but there is no value for a deviation after getting into the prone position.
This would solve the whole instant prone problem.
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 19:32
by Jaymz
l|Bubba|l wrote:Official Poll for Patch 1.5
Dolphin Diving - Electronic Arts UK Community
Write that you want additional deviation for a short time after getting into the prone position instead of a larger delay between jumping and prone.
PR needs this value.
Oh how I wish

Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 19:58
by SocketMan
Psykogundam wrote:we can mod that on our own, lol. BF2 needs that
edit:
After i read the dolphin diving topic, i discovered i had a different view on it from my initial thoughts.
Why...do we....want....to change vanilla?
There is no logical reason why we should impose on a game that others favor. they like the style and whoever plays amongst them likes the style too. otherwise they would see the EA message of the day and download PR.
This much is obvious to me. If i was going to give my opinion on their forums, i would say .3
why? because i dont mind/care. they can play it whatever way they want. but in any case im not going to share my opinion with the vanilla community, but i'll share it with you guys.
And if i was going to give my opinion about stuff on their site, i would ask them to fix modder roadblocks so that it makes modder's job easier.
They've got a DICE producer who is actually responding to what's posted.
90% of the "problems" people have PR has fixed long time ago (grenade spam,parachute hacks,aa missiles,BH mini guns, etc)
There are also a few PR players there trying to get him to listen to what the MOD's
need - which is mostly more control/less limits and they're having some success imo
So if we do need something done,I suggest we're
start putting the message in.
There is a **** load of - useless posts there and the "good staff" from our 2-3 guys simply gets lost in the spam.
Now if that was 20-30 people with the same message - there is a chance it might
be implemented.Call it teamwork
edit*
There was about 50 posts asking if wide screen will be available,even after the producer said no -not
for the beta maybe for the final - guess what:
1920x1200 in game

Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 20:57
by Grasli
Here's a new poll to add deviation when going prone (just like BF2142 has). And this will be instead of another fix which has been done (if it gets done).
Please vote YES. If we get this, it also means that PR can add deviation when going prone, doesn't it? Or does PR already have that? Afaik its not possible.. yet..
Deviation when going prone instead of jump-prone delay? - Electronic Arts UK Community'
Vote YES everyone, even if you dont play vBF2. It means a lot to us who plays vBF2 (AND PR).
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 21:07
by SocketMan
Can you guys do the old man a favour and say which one looks "normal" (like a circle)?
To me it looks the same as with using the shortcut (+szy):thick and a bit stretched,not really "native" imo
(crop from)
1920x1200
(crop from)
1600x1200

Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 21:10
by Alex6714
Bottom one slightly I guess. Check the pixel dimensions of each picture to see which is more square aswell, its quite similar.
But the bottom one looks more normal bf2 non stretched. Still not a proper circle though.
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 21:11
by DonDOOM
I'd say the bottom one
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 21:17
by Mora
'[R-TEC wrote:SocketMan;1001431']
edit*
There was about 50 posts asking if wide screen will be available,even after the producer said no -not
for the beta maybe for the final - guess what:
1920x1200 in game

This is not true widescreen support. Its the same as when you put the +widescreen 1 +szx 1920 +szy 1200 in your shortcut.
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 21:19
by SocketMan
Yea the top one is the new "native" 1920x1200 that's (now) selectable in game,but it looks more like an oval then a circle.If I understand correctly both should be identical in shape (circle) regardless of the resolution.
Thanks for the comments (on the circle).
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 21:23
by l|Bubba|l
Grasli wrote:Here's a new poll to add deviation when going prone (just like BF2142 has). And this will be instead of another fix which has been done (if it gets done).
Please vote YES. If we get this, it also means that PR can add deviation when going prone, doesn't it? Or does PR already have that? Afaik its not possible.. yet..
Deviation when going prone instead of jump-prone delay? - Electronic Arts UK Community'
Vote YES everyone, even if you dont play vBF2. It means a lot to us who plays vBF2 (AND PR).
Could somebody quote my question in this thread?
Deviation when going prone instead of jump-prone delay? - Electronic Arts UK Community
I'm not sure if he noticed it.
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 21:35
by Grasli
Regarding Widescreen ingame resolutions:
There seems to be a problem with the fov; "· Widescreen, FOV doesn’t change - Investigating"
Battlefield Tracking - Electronic Arts UK Community
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 21:40
by ReaperMAC
Consensus to revert to 0.3 second delay between jump and prone
I seriously HOPE they don't revert it....
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 21:48
by cyberzomby
wow R-tec! Would be cool if we can pull that off. Any way I'd give them a +1 for actually come in and listen.
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 22:47
by Scot
So, I backed up everything, installed it, looking good, had a look around the new map, was shite, but oh well, no worries.
Went onto a server, was averagely excited, maybe some new stuff, maybe not, who knows.
I played for 2-5 minutes, then realised it was shit.
Deleted BF2 folder, re-named backup back to normal.
That was simple wasn't it?
Re: BF2 Patch 1.5 beta is knocking at the door...
Posted: 2009-04-23 23:00
by Psyko
[R-CON]ReaperMAC wrote:I seriously HOPE they don't revert it....
why do you care??