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Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-16 00:04
by edyR3c0rd
i know that russian faction don't use shootguns and there is problem with breaching slugs. maybe we should add new breaching system with stock(приклад

breaching. i think that would be more realistick. or add sawn-off shotgun.
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-16 03:10
by tommytgun
cant wait. does this mean new russian maps?
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-16 03:52
by alec89
tommytgun wrote:cant wait. does this mean new russian maps?
Yap. Russia gets Beirut(IDF vs RUS), which is why there is this desert camo. And Silent Eagle(US vs Russia).
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 00:07
by rushn
I know they have the new BTR-82 and BTR-82A coming out know they are a deep upgrade to BTR-80 since the russian military did not like BTR-90
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 03:24
by themartini
Does that BTR happen to have a TOW on the front?
Or is this a nooby question?
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 04:12
by Meza82
alec89 wrote:Yap. Russia gets Beirut(IDF vs RUS), which is why there is this desert camo. And Silent Eagle(US vs Russia).
IDF vs RUSSIA?!?! omg awsome! at first i was like "Russia is fighting in the mid-East?"
but IDF vs Russia in Beruit is realistic enough and so cool! omg i cant wait
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 04:15
by alec89
Meza82 wrote:IDF vs RUSSIA?!?! omg awsome! at first i was like "Russia is fighting in the mid-East?"
but IDF vs Russia in Beruit is realistic enough and so cool! omg i cant wait
Actually its not realistic at all... lol. I cant see IDF fighting Russia, ever. xD. Russia is the placeholder in Beirut for Hizbollah for now I think.
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 04:21
by alec89
themartini wrote:Does that BTR happen to have a TOW on the front?
Or is this a nooby question?
BTRs normally have 14.5 mm mg(heavy) and 7.62mm(light), thats it. Its the BMP that has the ATGM(anti tank guided missile), in american "TOW".

Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 16:24
by Nosferatu
BTR-90 has ATGM "Korent", with all this firepower it became friggin wheeled IFV, not APC.
And MoD is OK with BTR-90, except it's kind of expensive, modernized BTR-80 and BTR-80A are way cheaper.
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 16:31
by DankE_SPB
[R-DEV]Nosferatu wrote:
And MoD is OK with BTR-90, except it's kind of expensive, modernized BTR-80 and BTR-80A are way cheaper.
isnt it being redone with new engine(to unify it with BMP-3 and other vehicles), layout(we may finally see BTR with entrance at back) and reduce it costs? while the 82 series is to fill the gap before "new" 90 will arrive?
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 16:54
by mongol-horde
alec89 wrote:Actually its not realistic at all... lol. I cant see IDF fighting Russia, ever. xD. Russia is the placeholder in Beirut for Hizbollah for now I think.
couldn't the scenario turn into smth like with american aid transported exclusively onboard of aircraft carriers.
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 18:37
by alec89
mongol-horde wrote:
couldn't the scenario turn into smth like with american aid transported exclusively onboard of aircraft carriers.
But russians are attacking from the sea this time. Anyway IDF vs Russia is just not realistic cuz its a world power vs a regional middle eastern power. But Israel, I dont think it would really do much to Russia. Compare Russia's size and army to Israel's. Israel is even smaller than Georgia. So the point is that its not realistic, but its interesting to see it play out in a virtual warfare. I'm looking forward to the Beirut map

Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 18:44
by mongol-horde
finland also was not big sized and heavily armed.
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 18:59
by alec89
mongol-horde wrote:finland also was not big sized and heavily armed.
That WAS, but not the same now. Right now there are some developed toys, ballistic missiles, laser guided missiles, anti air, anti tank, nukes.... all kinds of sick ****.
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 21:16
by Desertfox287
Looks good, nice to see that the Russians have desert camo now. Can't wait to play on maps with IDF and Russia battling it out. .9 is gonna be amazing
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 21:40
by mongol-horde
alec89 wrote:That WAS, but not the same now. Right now there are some developed toys, ballistic missiles, laser guided missiles, anti air, anti tank, nukes.... all kinds of sick ****.
yes, yes, in 1939 soviet army was also quite developed and dominating finnish. not much changed since then really. there was a period after ww2, but it ended after soviet troops left afghanistan. underestimating your opponent is a mistake, and it is much worse if you do it being in bad shape, when also affected by your glorious past.
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 22:11
by alec89
mongol-horde wrote:yes, yes, in 1939 soviet army was also quite developed and dominating finnish. not much changed since then really. there was a period after ww2, but it ended after soviet troops left afghanistan. underestimating your opponent is a mistake, and it is much worse if you do it being in bad shape, when also affected by your glorious past.
Lol, what do you mean nothing has changed? Weapons changed, new, more destructive weapons came, better planes and more powerful. There is nothing to underestimate. Its just laughable to think that there is a potential of Russia vs Israel. First of all, they dont have a reason to, second it would be severely unbalanced.
Lets not get political now.
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 22:28
by mongol-horde
mb you'd remember an example of russian tanks compared with georgian upgraded by jews? once again, unlearnt lessons of winter war... or... 'british do not clean their rifle barrels with brick dust'...
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 22:30
by alec89
mongol-horde wrote:mb you'd remember an example of russian tanks compared with georgian upgraded by jews? once again, unlearnt lessons of winter war... or... british do not clean their rifle barrels with brick dust...
Whats to compare? Our tanks still owned georgian tanks. We had georgian army hiding in tbilisi after 5 days of battle and had air superiority in couple of hours. Their Su-25s were also upgraded by Israel on behalf of US. and? xD
Re: [Kits] Russian Forces Desert Camouflage
Posted: 2010-01-18 22:35
by Big Lebowski
Conman51 wrote:BF2 also used the M24 for the Marines sniper, the Black Hawk, the Linebacker AA....BF2 did lots of military accuracy mess ups, dont trust it
Not to mention the whole MEC thing. PR dosent seem to have any probs with that though. As long as you just arm them with H&K its way rEalisTic!
