The PR team is going to use the C4 Engine

[xatu miller]

Whats the difference?

The forced teamwork is created to force the player to use teamwork in a case which it wouldn't be necessary or needed IRL. While real teamwork is teamwork which effect is actually fruitful not required. IE soflam and jets.

[Feriluce]

The forced teamwork is created to force the player to use teamwork in a case which it wouldn't be necessary or needed IRL. While real teamwork is teamwork which effect is actually fruitful not required. IE soflam and jets.

If you dont force teamwork on players, there will be no teamwork. Countless games should have shown you that.

[Masaq]

Anyone else who wants information on the more technical aspects of C4, or who want to know what other developers make of it - check out this page:

DevMaster.net - C4 Engine - Engine Details

[xatu miller]

If you dont force teamwork on players, there will be no teamwork. Countless games should have shown you that.

No not really. It is possible to create a game where players enforce a behaviour on each other rather then the game on the players. And which games were actually made for real human only teamwork?The environment needs to encourage it and any rules should be enforced by players themselves, that's why the community is very important. Does COD4 do that?HELL NAA DAWG I R TH3 UB3R SN!P0R AND I N33D N0 T3AM. Does ARMA do that without any add-ons? Well not really its more main streamed, but its closer.

[Conman51]

its totaly pointless when people talk about 3D engines, that have not seen the code of a single engine and barely understand how an engine works...

it also sucks when people say "this engine is way cooler" when they dont even look at the price.

For what the Devs paid for the license,which is little, they got alot for its worth

[Masaq]

No not really. It is possible to create a game where players enforce a behaviour on each other rather then the game on the players. And which games were actually made for real human only teamwork?The environment needs to encourage it and any rules should be enforced by players themselves, that's why the community is very important. Does COD4 do that?HELL NAA DAWG I R TH3 UB3R SN!P0R AND I N33D N0 T3AM. Does ARMA do that without any add-ons? Well not really its more main streamed, but its closer.

This isn't a thread for a debate about how to encourage teamwork, guys.

[Z-trooper]

also can we pleeeeeeaaaaaassseee stop with the friggin engine suggestions.

[Feriluce]

also can we pleeeeeeaaaaaassseee stop with the friggin engine suggestions.

I think you should use SCUMM for PR2

[Tim270]

Use SAGE

[Masaq]

If you guys keep being wisearses, we're going to switch to QBASIC and you won't like that

[maarit]

Masaq;1295265']If you guys keep being wisearses, we're going to switch to QBASIC and you won't like that

YouTube - QBASIC Gorillas

qbasic has Destructible environment

[DevilDog812]

PR2 = TrackIR compatible?

[Masaq]

YouTube - QBASIC Gorillas

qbasic has Destructible environment

I loved that game ^_^

[Zimmer]

Not to be rude. but:
What are you rambling on about?

All I said was "The graphics are WIP" and everybody starts writing essays about how I'm uninformed and I'm ignorant?

Seriously, what are you guys on? How is saying that the graphics is a work in progress and that they will look better later criticizing* ANYBODY?

Do you guys even read before you post?




That is what I'm saying, and everyone thinks I'm saying: "C4 sux, use torque"

When I never said anything CLOSE to that.

Sorry if I was to harsh I just saw most people critizising without having a clue what they where talking about, I have no clue about such mechanics myself yet, but I do have an idea of how such things works.

I am deeply sorry for getting to mad at you as you where the post I saw when I wanted to express myself

[Snazz]

How could it be changed? We couldn't magically make the engine's workload when calculating that kind of action/event any less.

I meant reduce the destructibility if needed basically, not 'magically' optimize it where DICE hasn't.

I'm not convinced the amount of destructibility is the entire reason there is only 32 max players, as it could be a game play decision.

[Zimmer]

I'm no coder but I thought the point of having access to the source code was so you could change various things in the engine to suit your needs.

By change I meant reduce the destructibility if needed basically, not 'magically' optimize it where DICE hasn't.

I'm not convinced the amount of destructibility is the entire reason there is only 32 max players, as it could be a game play decision.

I think the C4 engine is a stripped down gaming engine means that the engine is only coded with alghortims and codes that tells the engine about terrain (like vortex, sound (read some amazing things like doppler effect was in the working from someone here) and so on. So what I think masaq is saying is that the alghoritms and so on is what defines the workload and from what I have seen this guy dont know his name again is like one of the smartest guys in the buisness so it would be hard to optimice something he already have omptimized.

Then the PR team decides basically everything from that. As there is no code or anything giving how a static or object may work in the game the engine just now that there is a static there with some textures, shaders and so on, but dont actually ahve any input on what the static are supposed to do or how to behave. All that is up to the developers. This is not what I know but how I believe it works. So what I think is that the devs dont change anything they just create it.

[killonsight95]

whats the doppler effect?

[Masaq]

whats the doppler effect?

Let me google that for you

[Zimmer]

whats the doppler effect?

ITs like when a ambulance drive past you when its coming against you the sound is kinda higher pitched then when its going away from you, it has to do with the sound waves being longer or smaller.

[doop-de-doo]

A text-based teamwork-enforced QBASIC war simulation. I can hardly hear you over the sound of how awesome that is.

LOADING...

PEW PEW. (+5 attack rating, att 0.5, def 2, chance to hit 0.0034)

Enemy dead!

LEVEL UP! (+1 att, +0.002 def)

POW POW. (+1 attack rating, att 10, def 2, explode on hit)

YOU ARE DEAD!

Press F3 to restart...