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I got no clue what 21/4 memes are but let's focus on server feedback here. This thread isn't about the prta community, it's about their server in particular.

[R-DEV]Mineral wrote:I got no clue what 21/4 memes are but let's focus on server feedback here. This thread isn't about the prta community, it's about their server in particular.

hm. bad admins and blind managers are part of server?

Played for 2 nights straight recently after a few months away from the game whilst busy with RL stuff and sorting out our Squad server.

Revised rule-set bringing all assets under common-named squads allowing for more Infantry squads, return of APC squads and properly prioritising them at the bottom of Mech Inf squads seems to be working well. There're more instances of infantry using assets to assist them, rather than assets going off and having wars of their own leaving the Infantry to slug it out amidst the cross-fire. The rules in general are now much more common-sense so you don't need to actually remember them as they aren't difficult to work with.

Much better experiences than the last few times I played, so fair to say the server is improving on recent months and well-worth a try if you're considering getting back into PR.

Heskey wrote:Played for 2 nights straight recently after a few months away from the game whilst busy with RL stuff and sorting out our Squad server.

Revised rule-set bringing all assets under common-named squads allowing for more Infantry squads, return of APC squads and properly prioritising them at the bottom of Mech Inf squads seems to be working well. There're more instances of infantry using assets to assist them, rather than assets going off and having wars of their own leaving the Infantry to slug it out amidst the cross-fire. The rules in general are now much more common-sense so you don't need to actually remember them as they aren't difficult to work with.

Much better experiences than the last few times I played, so fair to say the server is improving on recent months and well-worth a try if you're considering getting back into PR.

Good to hear this.

I, being an old ex-member of PRTA (oh, 'tis was a long, long time ago, I think I joined in 0.91), it's good to see that quality teamwork oriented rules are coming back.

But while I was playing there (with a fake nick) I noticed that some admins are really immature. I won't point my finger at anyone, it's just food for a thought.

I know that lot of bad games are connected with the influx of new players, but if admins keep using words "retarded" while dealing with possible rule breakers, then it's bad admin etiquette. And etiquette in PR is something that people should strive to improve. I remember the pre 1.0 days when it was common sense that PR is serious business. It really was back then, and it's not that the mod is serious business - it's the player base that defines the mod. As all of us can run around like headless chickens in "free kit" squads or better yet "mum tw inf" squads w/o a SL that hasn't got a clue how to lead.

Anyway, good to see that the server I've spent the 3rd most time in after TG and UKWF (an old server that sadly died out in 0.91 which rules I liked; the base of them being "zero tolerance").

Hope I will have more time in next few months to hop on more and enjoy the teamwork. I really am pro integrated APC's within Inf squads for reasons noted above (no private wars between APC's, but instead they're working close with their inf squad or any other that needs help).

Yesterday there was a mass TKer killing people in enemy main while there was at least one admin(two were in TS) on. I poked the admin I knew was online to tell him what was happening. Nothing was done.

Also the teams were hero-level stacked and nothing was done about that either.

I am looking forward to returning imminently and seeing for myself the hate and drama filled PRTA once again.
I think Liam and Mats should join the admin team to help out.

PLODDITHANLEY wrote:I am looking forward to returning imminently and seeing for myself the hate and drama filled PRTA once again.
I think Liam and Mats should join the admin team to help out.

Been there, done that, no thanks.

PLODDITHANLEY wrote:I think Liam and Mats should join the admin team to help out.

I also left for reasons.

Lead Admin is AWOL and there is no one running the server. As you can see its quite evident. But plenty of new servers in the server list to play on now!

SuperArmy wrote:Lead Admin is AWOL and there is no one running the server. As you can see its quite evident. But plenty of new servers in the server list to play on now!

This is low, and not constructive. @mats plz remove.

FFG wrote:This is low, and not constructive. @mats plz remove.

Bit rich coming from you.

It is constructive. They have a lack of leadership and they have acknowledged it. They are looking for replacements right now.

SuperArmy wrote:Bit rich coming from you.

It is constructive. They have a lack of leadership and they have acknowledged it. They are looking for replacements right now.

I expected more from you super. Cheap shot. We already have our replacement, but we dont want to replace people who might be coming back soon

Geekius wrote:I expected more from you super. Cheap shot. We already have our replacement, but we dont want to replace people who might be coming back soon

People keep taking cheap shots at me. PRTA are always looking for new admins which is a good thing. Grow the team. Strengthen it. But Its lacking leadership. Geekius you are doing an awesome job under the circumstances.

I think it's time to clear up some things publically here. If you come to our forums and put forth evidence that certain things have been done that should not have been, of course we will deal with it. But if you go there, and spam reports like the KIA have done, with tons and tons of baseless accusations in them and next to no evidence to support it, of course we will do nothing.

It's lying, its dishonest, and we're not going to bow down to any person who spams reports simply because theres a lot of reports, if the reports or the accusations within them have no merit. Unfortunately for us, there have been a lot of reports by individuals with implicit bias, with accusations in them that any reasonable person would see are not fair. This volume of reports unfortunately does support the narrative that we dont answer reports or that there will be no repercussions to come of reports against our administrators.

This is again blatantly false. I was suspended late last year by lead administrator rivers because I did something wrong, and have myself suspended several administrators who are out of line.

If you've seen something on our server that you think we should have done differently, please, report it, and say how it could have been done differently to prevent the problem, and chances are we will listen, but if you just grumble over it and assume nothing will be done, then guess what? We don't know whats wrong and we cant fix it.

Example report:

Should what I wrote above be unclear, consider the following. There is a report saying an administrator abused the scramble command in order to take assets for himself/present specific individuals from taking assets.

Is there evidence that the scramble command was done by the reported administrator? Yes.

Is there evidence the administrator used assets in the following round?
Yes.

Did the scramble command present any specific advantage to the administrator in regards to taking assets?
No. He was writing the command, not staring at the squad creation screen with his mouse pointed hovering over the relevant buttons, like everyone else was. Therefore he was disadvantaged, not advantaged.

Is there evidence that the scramble command specifically prevented the given individuals from using assets?
No, as the scramble command works indiscriminately on every player on the server.

And while I'm talking about this here, I can also point out that coming up with extremely convoluted ways that the accusation can in fact be true, I can bring up occams razor. The simplest explanation tends to be the right one.

This leads me to conclude that the report itself merits no repercussions from the senior administrators on our server, as the chance that the administrator abused the scramble command is unlikely to the point of impossible. So doublecheck your reports. Is this an implicit bias talking or is there actually merit to your accusations?

Geekius
Senior Administrator
PRTA

that's all great drama, but keep it out of here. Back to feedback. This thread ain't about these 1on1 arguments.

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f29-pr ... -read.html

Geekius pls stop calling KIA being lying or dishonest.

They are playing, helping the community and supported PRTA way longer than you could ever do!

You should rather accept feedback and learn from more experienced guys how to administrate than acting like a 6 y/o girl.

Niko
Leadgeneraladmiral
POV

fecht_niko wrote:Geekius pls stop calling KIA being lying or dishonest.

I said the reports were lies and dishonest, not that kia were, however I understand how it may come across that way, so in that sense, I apologize. Plenty of good (bad?) examples of people making dishonest reports but this was the most recent one.

fecht_niko wrote:They are playing, helping the community and supported PRTA way longer than you could ever do!

Whether they are playing, helping the community, and supporting PRTA longer then me makes no difference to the points I am putting up. I don't consider how people were before, I care about how they act now.

fecht_niko wrote:You should rather accept feedback and learn from more experienced guys how to administrate than acting like a 6 y/o girl.

Niko
Leadgeneraladmiral
POV

Again, personal attacks and baseless accusations solve nothing. We do accept feedback, we just demand a higher standard of evidence then personal testimony from people we know have a strong dislike of certain admins and/or an interest in seeing PRTA fail.

Geekius
Senior Administrator
PRTA

Would not recommend playing on this server. Admins banning people for being good players and ignoring requests for proofs.

rPoXoTauJIo wrote:Would not recommend playing on this server. Admins banning people for being good players and ignoring requests for proofs.

" when you claimed all of the assets in one team, and otherwise have broken at one point or another, in many cases repeatedly all of the rules i posted above. There are no specific requirements for a permanent ban, we use the tools at our disposal to make the game better for everyone else on the server."

(c) Geekius
Senior Administrator
PR EU
PRTA

if you skilled player or clan you will be banned on the PRTA for nothing. its good server but bad admins.

Indeed. Admins liars(Geekius, SserpensS) and unmature persons(Geekius, Ducky, Conversex) with buttons.
Those persons just ruin old PRTA, where was Wicca memes, fair play and judgement from seniors.

Geekius
This shit
Is annoying
Stop doing dat.