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Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 12:11
by volks
Brainlaag wrote:I have internal sources that claim you have been a very active rage-quitter. Not necessarily the right spirit.
You only live with what you think you know then Brain. I dont know your sources, i can guess tho. But you know, unless you want to talk to me or ask me what really happened, or at least what i think, i dont really give a jackshit about what you think. I know myself, people know me very well in terms of teamwork and team spirit soo...
But, i still want to emphasize the fact that, im not one of the squad leaders in PR that will get bullied, spammed or dictated by some stupid wise-*** officers or commanders. I'm not anyones dog and i wont let people to do whatever they want to me or my guys and then just expect me to say "ok".
To give an "Ari Gold" analogy; I'm very sure that there had been some SLs or grunts that had their commander's finger in their *** long enough that they eventually let them fuck it. But im not like them, and i wont let any disrespect to me or my squad by other SLs, Commanders or players. If such things occur in a place, i fucking quit and call this rage-quit or whatever. Dont care really.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 12:27
by PFunk
Brainlaag wrote:I have internal sources that claim you have been a very active rage-quitter. Not necessarily the right spirit.
If I wanted to put together a tournament team I'd pick Oreely in my first batch and expect him to be the last one to quit when things got tough.
If I wanted a good team spirit I'd probably put him in charge of my cheerleaders.
I remember a PRT loss where he came out and wanted to accept all the responsibility for not trying hard enough because he didn't think he had. Never saw anybody on the internet so readily try so hard to take shit he didn't even deserve. He's solid, unlike a lot of others I've met on the tournament circuit.
Don't slag off my friends Brain, you'll lose.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 13:37
by Cossack
WTF people, this turning into off topic, so post something relevant or GTFO. Thank you.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 13:41
by volks
Cossack112 wrote:WTF people, this turning into off topic, so post something relevant or GTFO. Thank you.
Cossack. Read throughly please. So you can be aware of whats off topic and what is not.
PS: This is again turning into a flame war and im off. Already expressed my ideas in previous pages so nothing more to add from me. I will not further involve in bullshit. See you on the battlefield hopefully.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 14:08
by Brainlaag
You wanted me to elaborate it, I did, you can get upset with it, or not, none of my business and while I hate pointing with fingers at others, because like everybody else I have my mistakes and weaknesses, denying yours won't improve the situation. It was not a personal attack to you, just pointing out what your so called weakness is, that being your overall impulsive character. Instead of going full defense on it, try to learn and improve from it, unlike others I'm not into slapping people across their face but trying to help them and say straight out the truth.
This is not a flame, nor anything like that (if for you it had the looks of it, I apologize), it was merely an observation, if you want to take it personal on me, go ahead, I don't mind it if thats what makes you happy.
To improve TART in general everybody, especially those in leading positions should face what they did wrong and try to accept and/or understand what their comrades are seeing as errors.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 14:19
by PFunk
Brainlaag wrote:
To improve TART in general everybody, especially those in leading positions should face what they did wrong and try to accept and/or understand what their comrades are seeing as errors.
Are you SURE you want to do that to yourself?
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 14:27
by Brainlaag
PFunk wrote:Are you SURE you want to do that to yourself?
Go ahead.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 14:28
by Raic
This thread just turned into:

Take your cat fight to PMs, now.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 14:29
by Arc_Shielder
The only positive thing of where this thread is going is that it gives me the chance to try out the new spidey memes out there.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 14:30
by Raic
Arcturus_Shielder wrote:The only positive thing of where this thread is going is that it gives me the chance to try out the new spidey memes out there.
Goddamnit, don't you dare.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 14:34
by Brainlaag
Critics and everyone with their goddamn ego, this thread is about whats wrong in the TART, what could be a better reason than the people playing in it, or right wait, the medals are more important duh. You confuse me sometimes Raic.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 14:39
by Raic
Brainlaag wrote:Critics and everyone with their goddamn ego, this thread is about whats wrong in the TART, what could be a better reason than the people playing in it, or right wait, the medals are more important duh. You confuse me sometimes Raic.
Read things I say more carefully. Never said I am going to do anything with medals, just pointing things that happened in PRT to make it have a feel of its own.
As far as ego goes, there are ways to point things, then there is being a total jerk about it. People react more on the method, than on what you a try to convey.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 14:46
by Brainlaag
Raic wrote:Read things I say more carefully. Never said I am going to do anything with medals, just pointing things that happened in PRT to make it have a feel of its own.
As far as ego goes, there are ways to point things, then there is being a total jerk about it. People react more on the method, than on what you a try to convey.
I apologize for not following you, the great master of cautious explanation. So, respectful replies are those like you did with Vicious, is that right, I'll give me best to improve on such a exemplary way of expressing my self.
See that line above was a perfect example of being a jerk.
I did not do that in my previous post, nor did it ever had that meaning. Funnily enough OReely took his time for a PM to chat about it but you have to go all off about it, thats what I'm talking about when I speak of "egos".
Edit: As for previous post, I mean the one replying to OReely.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 14:52
by CopyCat
Really guys, fck off - get on topic and what ever happened personally or a group/circle of friends, take your fights somewhere else. Get on topic or if you don't have anything but still have that itchy feeling to post something in here, just don't.
/CC
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 21:59
by Vicious302
So far the total ideas are:
Revert back to 64 Players and do the same thing you always did.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 23:23
by PFunk
Vicious302 wrote:
So far the total ideas are:
Revert back to 64 Players and do the same thing you always did.
As opposed to what? Overreach, create a stagnant and unsatisfying experience, and yet again sour the reputation of TART with the community as being something that can't begin to compete with the not so distant memory of successful PRT campaigns?
Ambition backfires if you take it too far. 128 player battles is like Hitler driving to the Volga, nice try, but you should know better by now.
Re: TART - What was wrong?
Posted: 2012-08-15 23:27
by Brainlaag
Vicious302 wrote:
So far the total ideas are:
Revert back to 64 Players and do the same thing you always did.
I admire your persistence but a tape recorder would do a better job than you. You keep repeating yourself over YOUR very ideas whom very few if any at all share.
And what Funk said, TART 1 suffered from heavy problems and instead of fixing them, TART 2 just jumped forward to 128, increasing problems. First of all a unique rules set etc. + the corresponding playerbase must be established (like the PRT did) before you can take leaps forward.