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Oddsodz your attitude is pretty appalling. You make a post, saying baseless things about our community, and then have the gall to post again to insult me, and question my sobriety and intelligence.

For your information, I believe you're referring to a complaint you posted on our forums. You alleged we were silly for "kicking people for creating squads". We responded to you that the server messaging clearly states that if people create a squad before the countdown reaches 1:30 we'd have to kick the person creating the squad in order to avoid a squad bug. It's not personal - it's just necessary to ensure maximum uptime on the server.

It's not our fault you can't read the screen you're sitting at or navigate forums to find your own post.

Now - please - I suggest we take this elsewhere, or drop it, before the Mods descend upon us.

Oddsodz,

You were kicked, the same way we kick everybody (including the odd T&T member) who forget or ignore the "Don't create a squad immediately" rule in place. You then came to the T&T forum, questioned the rules and questioned my judgment in a very polite but arrogant and insulting manner. We put up with your condescending tone for some time because you are a good player and play well. We won't put up with it whilst you're using it to insult community members and admins.

In short, take it the T&T website if you've got anything further to say, please. Your post was not deleted and is clearly visible. If you keep posting in here trying to stir up **** I'll ask another DEV or MOD to deal with it.


Thanks to everyone else in T&T for not leaping down Oddsod'z throat, Epoch, thanks for doing your best to stay civil

Ok. I See where this is going.

In regards to my kick for the "creating a squad" before 1.30 rule. I Posted on the [T&T]. And then checked back the next day to see if there was any replys only to find the post gone. It may have been moved or deleted. Fact is I could not see it and so to my mind. Nobody else in the public could see it. Sure it maybe back now. But it was not there the last time I checked. I Could be wrong. I Will never know. But to think I have been working/building and using website for a long time now (5 years or more), I Would find it hard to believe that I would make a mistake like that. That's not to say I did not make a mistake. I Just don't believe I did.

As I said in my 1st post here in this thread. Such rules are a bit silly. That's my opinion. End of story. And I did not want or see the need to bring that sort of thing up here. That's the sort of thing you take up at the [T&T] website. You are the ones that brought it up here. Not me. I Did not attack anybody here. Nor did I say anything bad about anybody (I Did joke about epoch on jets maps - meaning he hates them and does not want to admin them). I Now believe that it is not a case of me having grudge against [T&T] (which I don't). But more of a case of epoch having a grudge against me for just having the time, experience and knowledge of BF2 game servers systems.

But I see here now that unless it's a "I Love [T&T]" post. You are going to get flamed on by everybody and even have a DEV (Also happens to be a [T&T] member by the way) come and tell you off. I Was not one that is/was insulting people here in this thread. That was left to somebody else. And the worst part is that you make it sound like it was a hardship having to play with me on [T&T] server. Funny I seem to remember getting on very well with everybody and even getting asked to teach some of the [T&T] how to fly jets/HELOs (Which I did do). I Took the time to show them how things worked and what is the best way of LAZing and so on. You may say condescending tone. But it's only sounds condescending if you think you know better.

So to end this (well for me anyway). I Well say that I stand by my 1st post. The server is a good place to play. It has some silly rules but not something that should effect the game play. I Will still recommend it to anybody. But I have the funny feeling you won't see me there to much. Nobody goes to a pub where the landlord dislikes you.

Oddsodz

nobody smokes in a pub where smoking is banned either

Oddsodz. The kick thing is a squad-bug prevention. It is good to have a server enforcing that. It might become a feature in the futur to prevent it on every PR server (hopefully).

wooly-back-jack wrote:nobody smokes in a pub where smoking is banned either

Exactly.

Oh and Oddsodz- it's no secret I'm a T&T member. I've proudly made it known that I'm a member, and my signature space currently mentions our two servers. I'm not entirely sure what you're insinuating here - especially after I said that I'd step out and let another Dev or Mod deal with the moderation aspects of this thread if it was required at all.

There's no conflict of interest between being in a Clan/Community and being a member of the PR team.

In fact, there's not even a conflict of interest between being in a Clan/Community, being a server admin for them, and being in the PR team: - in case you hadn't noticed, iGi's Feedback Thread is posted by DEV Afterdune, [TF21] by DEV Patterson, ABA's by DEV UK_Force, Russian Reality by CON PrePod, CON Mainerror ran 10th Mountains' server, and CON DesertFox ran the DevFile.com server.

wooly-back-jack wrote:nobody smokes in a pub where smoking is banned either

exactly.

[R-CON]MAINERROR wrote:Oddsodz. The kick thing is a squad-bug prevention. It is good to have a server enforcing that. It might become a feature in the futur to prevent it on every PR server (hopefully).

I Do remember sometime ago. I Did read about the squad bug at Trintiy Games ISP forums and the most likely cause was in fact the player hitting the "Create Squad" key (default key "insert") before he/she had fully loaded. Not the in game menu system. That's what the consensus was.

But this is not the place for a full discussion about it.

On a side note. I Had the urge to pop by the server tonight. But I see that am banned now from the server. What a joke. I Come a give a good report about the server. But Because I did not say I love you or agree with every rule. I Am now banned. Well, You can't have everything I suppose. But Gee, I Wonder how many players have been banned for not agreeing with every rule? I Will not be appealing. Not worth my time. Who wants to play on a server with that kind of mentality running it? Not me.

To anybody else that may read this. The server is good. But don't say a word to anybody sporting a [T&T] tag. Never know what might happen.

Oddsodz

PS. My Post on [T&T] is still not visible to the public. lol

I found ur post in 2 seconds oddsodz, their server, their rules (and their rules are good)

I think I got kicked once for it, I just felt stupid that I forgot to wait.

Is there any sort of proof that not creating a squad before 1:30 will get rid of the bug?
I recall BF2 servers with 30 sec start time that had the squad bug occurring to them, so how does waiting a minute and a half work here?
I heard that the bug only occurs if the squad is created before the start up timer begins (damn you'd had to load in pretty fast for that one), which sounds a lot more believable IMO.

And how does kicking the creator of the squad fix it? He created it, it's too late now and if someone joined him, the squad will remain cos it'll get a new leader.

Outlawz wrote:Is there any sort of proof that not creating a squad before 1:30 will get rid of the bug?
I recall BF2 servers with 30 sec start time that had the squad bug occurring to them, so how does waiting a minute and a half work here?
I heard that the bug only occurs if the squad is created before the start up timer begins (damn you'd had to load in pretty fast for that one), which sounds a lot more believable IMO.

And how does kicking the creator of the squad fix it? He created it, it's too late now and if someone joined him, the squad will remain cos it'll get a new leader.

We've tested such things enough to know it.

Kicked for making a squad? How silly - Tactics & Teamwork Forums

There's the thread I believe you're referring to... I must've raised it from the grave with my magical admin powers what with all our censorship and so forth that we must have going on Shhhh quick cover up any bad words about T&T XD... Ballsyocks

Anyhow I'm not gonna waste any time feeding any trolls with this we have enough folks frequent the server to know we aren't editing and hiding things to give a rose coloured perspective on everything, Of course some posts that are abusive or out of place in content will be removed E.G. members commenting on a Ban thread that's there specifically for admin use but that's just goo housekeeping

What I will do is once again explain why we think the squad bug happens

Man with Uber PC loads map real fast

Uber server dosn't load as fast

Uber PC creates squad

Uber server finally loads map... "theres a squad?? WTF!!!"

Other Uber PC can't create squad

Uber server says, "No you already have a squad, you cant have anymore"

So therefore

Uber T&T says no squads before 1:30 to make sure everything's loaded and all is good and balanced

Super uber man creates squad before this timer (potentially before the server's loaded)

Uber T&T admin kicks said Super Uber man so before server kicks off it has a clean slate

All is happy uber goodness

The limits of my techno jargon right there

Why am I writing this? I cant be arsed, time for bed

Don't worry lads, Cain's brain, this morning, is back to normal.

Glad to hear it tommy, for all our sakes.....

Wow... Cains brain looks like mine...

Outlawz wrote:Is there any sort of proof that not creating a squad before 1:30 will get rid of the bug?
I recall BF2 servers with 30 sec start time that had the squad bug occurring to them, so how does waiting a minute and a half work here?
I heard that the bug only occurs if the squad is created before the start up timer begins (damn you'd had to load in pretty fast for that one), which sounds a lot more believable IMO.

And how does kicking the creator of the squad fix it? He created it, it's too late now and if someone joined him, the squad will remain cos it'll get a new leader.

BF2 servers with 30s start time would still get the bug - they'd just need to stop people creating squads before the round starts to be safe.


...and we either the SL before anyone joins the squad, or we kick the SL and anyone who replaces him if they don't jump out. It works; no squad bug since we started implementing this policy.

All in, over £200 of Her Majesty's Pounds Sterling per month.

And that doesn't include goat food.

epoch wrote:All in, over £200 of Her Majesty's Pounds Sterling per month.

And that doesn't include goat food.

Thats pretty pretty expensive IMO.

...removed a couple of posts, to prevent/stop a flame war...

Guys, this is a feedback thread. Of course you are allowed to say things you dislike about the server, but keep it civil please. Thanks!