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Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-29 22:07
by Marian
I apologize that the post here

The tiger has no kanonne because it is used for defensive purposes at the moment

will be a war would break out (as in PR Germany vs. Russia ) the Tiger equipped with a Kannon

Therefore, one can say that it simulates unrealistic in PR

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-30 07:01
by Soldierman
Marian wrote:I apologize that the post here

The tiger has no kanonne because it is used for defensive purposes at the moment

will be a war would break out (as in PR Germany vs. Russia ) the Tiger equipped with a Kannon

Therefore, one can say that it simulates unrealistic in PR
Yeah, it needs a cannon.

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-30 07:34
by samogon100500
Soldierman wrote:Yeah, it needs a cannon.
German Tiger doesn't have cannon in RL.
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Also weapon layer unrealistic - they cannot have AA as they installed how.In current layout they can carry 24 rockets and 8 ATGMs.
They can carry AA missiles,but on this place,where installed rockets pods.
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They also can carry biggest rocket pods,but on this place,where installed ATGMs.
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P.S I am forget to say - gunner place on back of chopper,pilot place - on front.

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-30 11:08
by TheComedian
It's silly because the gunner has a terrible view.

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-30 15:39
by Marian
But he would get a cannon if Germany would go to war against Russia!

and that's a fact!!!

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-30 18:45
by ytman
samogon100500 wrote:German Tiger doesn't have cannon in RL.
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Also weapon layer unrealistic - they cannot have AA as they installed how.In current layout they can carry 24 rockets and 8 ATGMs.
They can carry AA missiles,but on this place,where installed rockets pods.
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They also can carry biggest rocket pods,but on this place,where installed ATGMs.
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P.S I am forget to say - gunner place on back of chopper,pilot place - on front.
This is a gameplay thing afaik. The Havok in game has capabilities it shouldn't have either as well.

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-30 19:08
by Titan
Marian wrote:But he would get a cannon if Germany would go to war against Russia!

and that's a fact!!!
interesting... where are you getting your "facts" from?

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-31 12:54
by Marian
The tiger has no kanonne because it is used for defensive purposes at the moment

because we are in the moment against "farmers" fight ....

and now considering what happens if we are to fight against Russia =

Tiger gets a Kannon 8-)

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-31 16:46
by Zoddom
@ marian:
your english skills are not very good ;)

and i dont think the tiger would get a RMK30 cannon because the tigers purpose is the bundeswehr is a pure anti-tank helicopter, thats why the optical system and the HOT-3 missiles. and its also the replacement of the Bo-105, which also was a pure "tank-hunter".

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-31 17:17
by FLAP_BRBGOING2MOON
Zoddom wrote:@ marian:
your english skills are not very good ;)

and i dont think the tiger would get a RMK30 cannon because the tigers purpose is the bundeswehr is a pure anti-tank helicopter, thats why the optical system and the HOT-3 missiles. and its also the replacement of the Bo-105, which also was a pure "tank-hunter".
from a gameplay perspective the lack of cannon and inability to dive make this easy pickings for the havoc, the only reason I have seen IRL for the lack of cannon is budget problems, which pr has none of. modeling a RMK30 and updating physics for the flight would be a step forward if anyone had the time to do it

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-31 18:15
by Zoddom
imo you should rather change the other helicopters. the turning rate of the AGMs are ridiculous, last week i saw a cobra firing a missile straight down.
this is unrealistic, destroys the atmosphere and causes that disadvantage of the tiger.
with realistic missile values, the tiger shouldnt have any disadvantage anymore.

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-31 23:18
by Stealthgato
Disregard this post. Fail.

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-08-31 23:22
by havoc1482
Stealthgato wrote:Been noticing lots of attack choppers in PR (actually all of them) have their anti-tank armament with additional air-to-air missiles unrealisticly placed at the tip of the winglets - making them have more armament than they should. What gives? Also why do the MEC have Havocs if no country other than Russia has them?
Well considering the MEC are a made up faction then maybe they have a deal with Russia? I don't know lol.

Re: [0966] Eurocopter tiger barely useable

Posted: 2011-09-01 06:44
by FLAP_BRBGOING2MOON
Zoddom wrote:imo you should rather change the other helicopters. the turning rate of the AGMs are ridiculous, last week i saw a cobra firing a missile straight down.
this is unrealistic, destroys the atmosphere and causes that disadvantage of the tiger.
with realistic missile values, the tiger shouldnt have any disadvantage anymore.
this is not the problem, the problem is every attack heli in the game can engage infantry and light targets effectively, and fend for itself in so called helicopter "catfights". the dive of death also makes one of the only viable cas strategies useless