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Posted: 2006-10-03 13:51
by Lothrian
A good squad shouldnt have any troubles on 64 EJOD.
Anyway, it has become the standard to carpet bomb the roof tops with the Assault grenade launcher, plus most of the time a squad is surrounded by smoke and cover fire ... it really isnt an option to snipe from the roof tops.

Posted: 2006-10-03 14:47
by anything
dunkellic wrote:NO!NO! you got that totally wrong!
i thought, that you may have thought, that you were banned because you are american, i just wanted to make shure that there is no misunderstanding and that you know that you´ve been banned because of teamhoping.



you see, someone could understand your post the way that you thougt, you were banned because you are a us citizen - never did i intend to give the impression that you were banned because of that cause







too bad you left after the round. shure, that particular one wasn´t too great, and yes i noticed that the one player went silent as you asked him why he punished, but i already had some great rounds on that map.
the next round, the one after you left i opened a squad, map was jalalabad, and it was a-w-e-s-o-m-e ^^
shure, i had better rounds, but i rarely play as sl, perhaps i might change this after this round.
at least my squad worked very good together, it was my squad (we were usmc) that captured the hotel, caputered the market, nearly captured the last point and recaptured the market after it has been retaken by the enemy. everybody worked very well together and we used tactic - resulting in a victory with over 100 tickets ledge

*dunkellicisgonebaskinginhisownglory* ;)
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i was h.barka :2gunsfiri but that was definitely the worst team i've ever played with, it seems these days all the experienced players switch to one side so that they can have a turkey shoot :rolleyes:

Posted: 2006-10-03 16:40
by anything
exact same thing today :26_suicid i'm gonna avoid this server like the plague from now on. today the majority of the team i was on were snipers, how sad is that?

Posted: 2006-10-03 17:30
by DJJ-Terror
Yeah, that totally ruined the game.
Can't wait for 0.4 and kit limiting...

Posted: 2006-10-03 23:05
by MrD
I was assured by the admin on this server that although they had left punishing on which makes players hate each other, that no one would be kicked as a result of the punishes.

In the middle of a game on Strike to Karkland i watched an engineer accidently double click with explosives and kill everyone around him, including me. I forgave him the mistake (like i forgive everyone) yet everyone else punished him and A SERVER MESSSAGE SAYING KICKING HIM appeared.

there appears to be a lack of understanding of the english language for server settings, unless the german language file is incorrectly setup and the admin think they are setting up the server one way but in fact they are getting different results.

in apporoximately 4 rounds I only ever got any replies to my text twice even when we were about to have bases taken over and that was because I had another iGi member in my squad.

I see loads of english text being used yet you call for a medic or ammo when 12ft behind someone and they don't turn round and give you it. the sheer lack of teamplay is astonishing. the manual comes with the game, the mini radar map is discussed in the manual, it gets bad when you have to run up and jump on someone, "shout "medic" or "ammo" 20 times and HOPE you get what you need.

this lack of teamplaying even with the quick commo commands is not a sign of bad english. whatever language you speak you can remember this rose. The resulting behaviour I saw AGAIN on the server is an utter lack of teamplay.

strange how theres loads of players on it and iGi has emptied recently. maybe people don't like it when they are prevented from becoming sniper and support whorers and non-teamplayers are also penalised. Maybe rules aren't for this community at all? rules that make the gaming enjoyable, encourage gameplay and leave everyone satisfied with their gaming.

I dare anyone to say they had a team that listened to reports, text or voip and were able to use decent tactics going across the maps. Don't bother saying "we had this one squad.............." becuase it's almost as illusionary as "one time, at band camp............"

we at iGi are going to have to figure out how to get the players back over. this situation is disturbing and not going to do the PRMM community much good at all.

Posted: 2006-10-04 02:21
by Esso
MrD it get me sad if I were reading your comments. And this is the last Post were I will comment your posts.

I think you have an personale problem with our Server.

I can´t belief that som guys here in this Community will not accept the new Clans and there Servers and let them be Welcome in this Community.

I can´t agree what you are write in your Post. I were Playing with my Squad on EJOD Desert Today. In the same Team as you and if i need an Medic to heal or reanimate me, my Squad Member would do this Job very well. Ok sometimes it does not work so Perfect with the Medic´s as example, but that is not a probleme of the TB Server is a Generale Problem sometimes, and i think the best way to fix this is to organise an own Squad.

Put perhaps I and Schrotti are to stupid to Administrate a PRMM Server. But i think nobody is Perfekt an we were Working every Day on the Server an watch inside the Game to prepare there PRMM Community a good Server.

The TB Clan was not lucky that our Server the exigencies of MrD coud not execute. But were working on our Problems and perhaps we can please you MrD.

Posted: 2006-10-04 10:16
by booyaka1976
played on your server couple of days ago.

personally i won't be back in a hurry- total lack of team play/squad play. 3 sqaud leaders were playing as snipers and sitting on the top of buildings and when i spawned on them i fell straight off the building and died again!

Also i accidentally TK a squad member with a grenade, i then picked up his medic kit, reivied him, apologised and he STILL PUNISHED ME!!! WTF!!! :confused:

Good to see a mixture of old/new maps but a total lack of team play and lack of understanding from a lot of players.

Posted: 2006-10-04 11:33
by MrD
TB Esso, i made my own squad and my own squadmates wouldn't obey orders, heal me when i needed it or toss me ammo. I guess your experiences come with people who might not want to nark the admin off so much they get banned from the server eventually. I'm not admin on your server, so there is less need to obey me as squad leader.

a lot of players are commenting now here and elsewhere n the net about the punishing system and lack of teamwork on your server. if you aren't seeing what is going on at your own server then although you have the players now, you might not see those players in the future when they've torn out enough of their hair and want more relaxed gaming.

Is there an honest reason why you have enabled punishing on your server? because most of the experienced/good players don't understand why anyone would choose to enable such an alienating device.

Posted: 2006-10-04 16:08
by DivS-konti
MrD wrote:TB Esso, i made my own squad and my own squadmates wouldn't obey orders, heal me when i needed it or toss me ammo. I guess your experiences come with people who might not want to nark the admin off so much they get banned from the server eventually. I'm not admin on your server, so there is less need to obey me as squad leader.

a lot of players are commenting now here and elsewhere n the net about the punishing system and lack of teamwork on your server. if you aren't seeing what is going on at your own server then although you have the players now, you might not see those players in the future when they've torn out enough of their hair and want more relaxed gaming.

Is there an honest reason why you have enabled punishing on your server? because most of the experienced/good players don't understand why anyone would choose to enable such an alienating device.

OK mrd, it looks like u got some serious problems!

On igi server one gets kicked off if he plays lonewolf... ROFL!!! This fact makes me sick man! Get ur server working and leave us alone, ok?

Should we kick people off the server coz they're new to the mod? I suppose u do so - so don't worry, people won't join ur server any more coz of ur behaviour!

How could one be so ignorant?

So if u were admin, half of all players will be kicked, coz they don't play like u magnificant players of igi :-D

BF2 is a multi player online game. If u don't get that, it's ur problem! Not ours! And we won't kick anyone coz of u blaming them! :evil:

U guys of igi should ask yourself why ur server isn't much visited the last weeks. U destroy the community.

Posted: 2006-10-04 16:16
by dunkellic
CALM DOWN

jeez, stop throwing senseless arguments against each other, WE GOT IT! mrd doesnt like thor brigate server, schrotti apparantly the igi server - so!? it´s called opinions, and you know what, opinions tend to be asswoles ;) so stop flaming each other, for my part, i like both servers ^^

Posted: 2006-10-04 17:32
by .:iGi:.NinjaJedi
well i think both servers a awsome.


:)

Posted: 2006-10-04 19:41
by .:iGi:.U.G.H.
DivS-konti wrote:OK mrd, it looks like u got some serious problems!

On igi server one gets kicked off if he plays lonewolf... ROFL!!! This fact makes me sick man! Get ur server working and leave us alone, ok?

Should we kick people off the server coz they're new to the mod? I suppose u do so - so don't worry, people won't join ur server any more coz of ur behaviour!

How could one be so ignorant?

So if u were admin, half of all players will be kicked, coz they don't play like u magnificant players of igi :-D

BF2 is a multi player online game. If u don't get that, it's ur problem! Not ours! And we won't kick anyone coz of u blaming them! :evil:

U guys of igi should ask yourself why ur server isn't much visited the last weeks. U destroy the community.
I think you've mis-understood our server policies. We do (rarely) kick people for consistently not playing as a team but not without a few warnings. We are doing what we can to help people play as a team/in squads and that's what the community needs. Yeah some new people to the game will lone wolf but it's those people we need to try and bring into the PR world and make them good community players. That's the kind of players we all want i'm sure. Not a server full of lone wolf vanilla noobs. Do you agree?

To the contrary, we are one of the servers doing the most for the community. 8)

Posted: 2006-10-04 20:00
by DJJ-Terror
Agree!

Posted: 2006-10-04 23:57
by Kingston aka .:igi:. DD
It's not about the server, it's the players that make good or bad matches. Admins can try an curb anti teamwork with warnings and penalties but can't control peoples noobitity.
It's up to you!
Lead the lonewolfs and the sniper SL's gently by the hand towards the warm rosey glow of team work and how to play the game. Only together can we create a great community of game players that share in the wonderous bounty of being able to kill each other virtually in a civalized manner and shun away darkside support whoring, noob tubing, sniperfests.

Lead by example.

Lead them to victory.


Now lets all hold hands and sing hymns ;)

Posted: 2006-10-05 08:54
by DivS-konti
Not a server full of lone wolf vanilla noobs. Do you agree?
Agree. But in my eyes everybody on a server has to cope with the chaos on the battlefield. I mean this is war! Chaos is part of it! Sometimes one side wins very fast - sometimes the match will be just about 1 or 2 flags. This just happens. And we play public with 64 players. And a majority in one team might happen on a battlefield too. In some way I can understand those guys whining about the teams. But one can try to cope with that! That makes it interesting.

So we try to let them play as they like! Teamplaying skills will be developed by the most people as time goes by. One day they'll see why the other team wins! Then something will change in their way of playing. But I think it's not that good idea to force this every time we play. Remember: One squad can change the whole match! If that squad acts tactically smart ;)

As long as there are "vanilla-noobs" on prmm servers every match will be different. Sometimes it's frustrating, sometimes it's funny. But by giving them simply orders to join squads or "act as a team" most of them won't understand or act as skilled soldiers. They have to learn by themselves.

And frustration is part of war too I guess ;)

So we got no problems with that. We let them play but not act as fools. And that's why the punish function is enabled on our server. We can't keep an eye on every single player on the server. We just hope that people punish s.o. for good reasons and not just for fun.

Ok, that's it from my side. Hope to see you on the bf.


(And sorry for my rude behaviour in this thread, I just got a bit angry) :mrgreen:

Posted: 2006-10-05 09:33
by .:iGi:.U.G.H.
DivS-konti wrote:Agree. But in my eyes everybody on a server has to cope with the chaos on the battlefield. I mean this is war! Chaos is part of it! Sometimes one side wins very fast - sometimes the match will be just about 1 or 2 flags. This just happens. And we play public with 64 players. And a majority in one team might happen on a battlefield too. In some way I can understand those guys whining about the teams. But one can try to cope with that! That makes it interesting.

So we try to let them play as they like! Teamplaying skills will be developed by the most people as time goes by. One day they'll see why the other team wins! Then something will change in their way of playing. But I think it's not that good idea to force this every time we play. Remember: One squad can change the whole match! If that squad acts tactically smart ;)

As long as there are "vanilla-noobs" on prmm servers every match will be different. Sometimes it's frustrating, sometimes it's funny. But by giving them simply orders to join squads or "act as a team" most of them won't understand or act as skilled soldiers. They have to learn by themselves.

And frustration is part of war too I guess ;)

So we got no problems with that. We let them play but not act as fools. And that's why the punish function is enabled on our server. We can't keep an eye on every single player on the server. We just hope that people punish s.o. for good reasons and not just for fun.

Ok, that's it from my side. Hope to see you on the bf.
OK, if that's how you want to run things then fair enough. :) We are offering one side of PR with our no armour policy and map selection and you are offering another with armour and other maps. There is room for us both and i'm sure we'll both be packed once 0.4 is out. I'm personally enjoying us not being packed all the time at the moment as I prefer PR with about 20-30 players while we still have the support gun issue.
(And sorry for my rude behaviour in this thread, I just got a bit angry) :mrgreen:
No problem. I know how defensive people can get about their servers. :-D I'm sure we can all get along just fine. 8)

Posted: 2006-10-06 20:41
by 5dollar
.:iGi:. Greg wrote:Aah I see a bit of jealously.
.:iGi:.U.G.H. wrote:I'm sure we can all get along just fine
Are iGi aliens? Can you move this post to the conspiracy thread.....?

Posted: 2006-10-07 22:02
by .:iGi:. Greg
wtf?? where did you get that quote from? clearly not this thread, so really of no relevance to the Thor Server, which is what this thread is about.

Posted: 2006-10-08 15:03
by para_hjs
Please stop the flaming.

ONt:

I like both servers, played with one TB-guy as squadleader, worked out fine in the end.

Don´t know it´s just me, but the "last" days several vBF2 players found the TB-server? Weekend, guys drinking beers, misstakes happen.

TB and .:iGi:. servers are the servers I play on, but don´t know how I will do , when TB implement armour/arty..

I want pure infantery based gameplay :)

Posted: 2006-10-09 01:26
by Esso
para_hjs wrote:Please stop the flaming.

TB and .:iGi:. servers are the servers I play on, but don´t know how I will do , when TB implement armour/arty..

I want pure infantery based gameplay :)
We will take only on one Day exactly on the 10th of Oktober Amor on the Server. If the Server will be full at that Day we will add perhaps one Amor Day every Week.

Just let us See what the Commnunity says to this day. I think the Amor and no Armor Guys should be Welcome on our Server.

And fininal the Community will decides if it is a nice act that perhaps one Day per Week the Server will run with Amor.