Lack of Mumble users in PR community. Ideas?

[Deer]

People talking and screwing around on local happens many people love the arseing around jokes etc when doing a boring job, if you're such a miserable individual that this bugs you - go somewhere else out of local range. I don't participate in this but makes me smile to hear guys having fun.

Its much easier to avoid that voip spam by not joining mumble.. and since we are talking about reasons why there isnt so many mumble users... this is probably one of em. Voip spammers blames spam haters for being "miserable inviduals" plus tells them to go away if they dont want to listen the spam and spam haters blames spammers being too noisy and goes away... so everyone should be happy.. except then we wonder why mumble isnt more popular.

[PLODDITHANLEY]

I remember playing with you on mumble once, no reply for ages.

Of course don't join, but for me the upsides of mumble TW and all that entails is hearing a group of rowdy guys one game in three that I am free to walk away from if I want - Its well worth it.

[Orford]

Id love to go back to one channel mumble but not many had the disaplin for it. It isnt a radio its to simulate your voice so if you talk every one whould hear it. Thats why its 3D and positional, if it was a radio it would be in your ear and thats it.
As for the eruption of chat at the end of the round, mute mumble hotkey works for me.
As I have written a couple of times before most issues with setting up mumble come from the windows aero desktop and the GUI crashing when clciking apply after setting key shortcuts or adjusting any setting in the options. To get round this right clcik the mumble .exe click propertise and compatiblity and check the boxes to turn off desktop composition and desktop visual themes. Who gives a toss what windows desktop looks like when mumble is running you are playing a game full screen.
As for mumble makes my sound turn down every time i use it. Windows see mumble and a comunications program like skype so windows turn other programs volume down to help you "make a call".
To stop this goto sound options and at the top the end tab, comunications. then in the box When windows detects comunications activity, clcik the box do nothing.

I see no excuse for not using mumble yes it could be better yes the spamming by certain squads could be less and yes the SL channel copuld do with less BS and more intel. Would I prefer this mumble over no mumble. Simple answer i`ll take this mumble and thanks for the hard work that went into it.

Use Mumble cos I said so. Dont give up on it cos you cannot get it to work put some effort in and you will be richly rewarded.

[Noergaard]

If Teamwork itself is encouraged to new players that may be trying to be lonewolf but then discover how wonderful a teamwork-oriented game can be, why don't we do the same with Mumble?

I would say that Felipe here has the most reasonable suggestion of all. If you work as a SL or similar encourage team members to join mumble. From my own experience the thing keeping me from having mumble in the first place, was a lack of knowledge and encouragement.

Allot of arguing in these forums, seems to miss the point that most of the people who take the time to install PR and learn the game are cool and nice people from all over the world who enjoy teamplay and intense firefights!

So let?s get our acts together and spread the word of mumble in an encouraging and constructive manner!

Cus' we all know, mumble is the fine salt that makes the game freaking amazing, it?s a shame so many miss out on it

[Arc_Shielder]

I'd just like to point out that many Mumble users (like myself) can't use the damn thing if there's 1 or 2 members in the squad that use VOIP. This is obviously a SL thing and I could even create my own squad, but nor I always want to lead and often find myself taking the medic kit so that another decent squad can give birth for the sake of the team.

Once the new version is released, I think it should be mandatory.

[Brainlaag]

DieSlow;1666657']What's to prevent players from hopping into the other teams SL channel and feeding info to their team?

That I and my fellow mumble admins instantly hit you with the banhammer if we catch you on our regular checks (Both server ban and mumble kick). And surely most of other server administrators will do.

[PLODDITHANLEY]

I'd just like to point out that many Mumble users (like myself) can't use the damn thing if there's 1 or 2 members in the squad that use VOIP.

Why? 1234

[Bufl4x]

Many mumble user don't realize they can assign hotkeys to increase/decrease volume.

[Brainlaag]

Many mumble user don't realize they can assign hotkeys to increase/decrease volume.

Or mute and deafen to just blend out the inter round spam, if you can't take it.

[Apo]

I have never seen a CoOp-Mumble-Server. If we want to encourage noobs to play with mumble, shouldnt they have time to familiarize themselfes with it in the learning phase?
Also i didnt know of mumble till i joined my first mumble server. So maybe mention it in the manual and / or ask with the PR installation if you want to install it. (Maybe make some over the top statements like "EVERYONE uses it!" )


And i want to add, the mumble spammers are REALLY annoying. Often i have situations where my Squad is talking and i cant understand them because some guys "need to have their fun" over mumble. The attitude "LOL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE!!11" is really not the way to handle this. This also opens the problem that people (me) often blend out the mumble talk because its nonse for a while. Sometimes other people, not familar with the in-jokes will just blend your talk out and have no indicator that your not joking anymore but want something. Many important messages got los this way. :/

Map change spam, okay, i get it. You want it. You love it. I have to deal with that, even if it is a reason many people are annoyed by the program. I have the mute button - i can live with that.
But PLEASE everyone - IN THE GAME, while the round is running and its winning or losing, SHUT YOUR TRAP! I dont want to hear your stupid childish jokes. I want to hear the enemys footsteps!

I still love mumble, but there is work to be done - by the community!

srry for bad english

[sr.bambino]

About spammers on Mumble, don't be so passive! If someone is giving irrelevant info or being an asshat, tell him to shut up. Don't just sit there and think "jeez mumble sucks", make it better!

And if u r on the SL channel and people on it are talking while someone in ur squad is communicating to you w/ Voip, you can set a bind key to mute Mumble. You can mute mumble, mute urself, increase + decrease volume, and its all very easy.

And I think at the end of the round when people start making jokes and having fun.... well its better than watching a loading bar, and I've found myself laughing out loud. Some people are pretty funny and some people have hilarious accents and what not.

PR is about communicating and Mumble can make it more social. We don't have such a high ratio of asshats as CoD. NoerGaard is right, the PR community is small and consists of people interested in realism who tend to be nicer and chiller and from ALL OVER the world.

[Orford]

I also find that at the end of the round the better the team work the more mature the chatter most times it turns into a debrief of what went wrong and what went right ready for the next map.

[PLODDITHANLEY]

I guess the jokers don't bother me as I'm fairly well known and have a big voice so if I want them to be quiet for a moment they usually will.

Guys shh a sec pleeease usually works for me.

[SmoothIsFast6]

yeah it takes the fun right out the game when nobody is using mumble

why don't all you non-mumble users go rape another game

[Arc_Shielder]

Why? 1234

Although I can memorize who is using mumble, if we're moving as a squad I need to use VOIP so that all can get the info. Which sucks because of the delay...

[Dev1200]

They're too stupid to use it.

It's funny, because it's true.


Everyone uses mumble on good servers. And I'll leave it at that.

[Psyrus]

<- An avid mumble user

why don't all you non-mumble users go rape another game

Extremely fail attitude. Many of us played for over 2-3 years without mumble and got along just fine. Mumble doesn't make teamwork, it facilitates it. You'd be wise to remember that.

[Dunehunter]

No matter what your views on mumble may be, show some respect to people who disagree with you.

[tompsien]

I can't imagine playing PR without mumble, being able to communicate with a member from other squad while under fire is a great tactical asset

[sgt.coleslaw]

i think its completely up to the individual player whether or not they want to use mumble. the whole idea of being forced to use mumble is outrageous. the servers that say they're running with mumble is a good idea so the people who are using, or are going to be using mumble, know to join that particular server. but the notion that a player should be kicked from the server if they're not running it, is a little harsh. let the squads that are running on mumble, say it in their names and if someone joins without mumble kick them see? easy. the players who arent using can either not join that squad, join a squad thats using voip, or leave and join a server thats not using mumble. i really dont think that those few players, or a squad, thats using voip instead of mumble, is really hurting teamwork or gameplay to the point that it would be noticed all that much. weve all played with that squad thats "doing their own thing" somewhere where they arent helpful to the team and i dont think that squad being on mumble would make them anymore teamwork friendly. in fact alot of people who arent running mumble are just as keen to gameplay as the others. there may be reasons people dont use mumble. they may be unable to use it, they cant figure it out, or any number of reasons. this mods been running for years, and to say, "hey we've got a new thingy to use here, so everybody use it, or we'll kick you from the server" isnt REAL teamwork at all, is it?