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Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-07-27 02:03
by Xavo|xXx
^HA classic.
Insurgency is usually the only time I fire at choppers. Mainly just to get them to piss off or to 'promote' a fake cache.
Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-07-27 08:37
by alberto_di_gio
I think if you are not in a fear of jeopardize your location firing choppers as a squad would have some benefits. Not to shoot it down but at least you'll scare the pilot and passengers and most probably force them to change their landing position. In some situation you can even force them to turn back to their base. Though mostly I'm talking about city maps. And as Rhino mentined in this thread with a plenty of fire power you always may hit 1 or 2 passengers in it

Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-07-27 10:46
by LordLoss
Its a shame that small arms fire vs helicopters is so misrepresented in PR due to engine limitations. Its the same reason for some vehicles going offroad can equal death or severe damage.
In most situations a few well placed rifle shots can cause huge problems for a helicopter in real life. Even an apache with its "armour" can be brought low by some decent 7.62 fire. However without making it so that helicopters explode upon everything but the most gentle of touch downs, choppers have to have their HP beefed up.
Same with vehicles vs small arms, unless you want to explode every time you go off road the vehicles have to have unrealistic resistance towards small arms. Theres a reason US patrol cars will usually have a shotgun with slugs in the trunk, put a couple of those into a car's engine block and that'll ruin its day, in PR however you're gonna need at least an LMG.
Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-07-29 04:53
by Xavo|xXx
LordLoss wrote:
Even an apache with its "armour" can be brought low by some decent 7.62 fire.
Finding this hard to believe.
Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-07-29 05:23
by ComradeHX
Xavo|xXx wrote:Finding this hard to believe.
You cannot possibly believe that every part of Apache has been armoured to be 7.62mm proof?
Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-07-29 11:36
by KillJoy[Fr]
ComradeHX wrote:You cannot possibly believe that every part of Apache has been armoured to be 7.62mm proof?
Karbala, 24 March 2003, 34 Apache attack Iraqi Republican Guard and 100 km south of Baghdad, near Karbala. The Apache only occur without any artillery support or air over an urban area. Greeted each attack by small arms fire very well coordinated, 27 aircraft are affected (with a minimum of 6 bullet holes), one of the Apache was forced to make an emergency landing and falls into the hands Iraqis.
source:
HELICO PASSION - AH64 Apache - US Army (3)
Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-07-30 19:13
by billysmall44
The only thing you could hope for is that the helicopter pilot will think hes really getting his *** kicked and fly away. Like everyone else says, you can wound people inside just by spraying at it, since they are in a helicopter they can't heal so you could get kills that way.
A little off topic, but to demonstrate how tough helicopters are: I was playing muttrah city on the MEC side and i hit an attack Huey in the tail with a LAT and it swung around and killed me and some buds i was with. HMG's and up are best for this task.
Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-07-30 20:05
by Brainlaag
billysmall44 wrote:The only thing you could hope for is that the helicopter pilot will think hes really getting his *** kicked and fly away. Like everyone else says, you can wound people inside just by spraying at it, since they are in a helicopter they can't heal so you could get kills that way.
A little off topic, but to demonstrate how tough helicopters are: I was playing muttrah city on the MEC side and i hit an attack Huey in the tail with a LAT and it swung around and killed me and some buds i was with. HMG's and up are best for this task.
Hueys are flying tanks and can't really be dragged into this discussion as they are an exception. Attack helicopters however are quite vulnerable, my mate and I took down a Havoc while spraying it with 2 MG3s. I have to admit the pilot was unexperienced, or simply stupid and gave us enough time to fill the Havoc with 2 belts, leading to a successfully downed chopper

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Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-07-31 20:13
by billysmall44
Brainlaag wrote:Attack helicopters however are quite vulnerable, my mate and I took down a Havoc while spraying it with 2 MG3s. I have to admit the pilot was unexperienced, or simply stupid and gave us enough time to fill the Havoc with 2 belts, leading to a successfully downed chopper

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There is no greater satisfaction then downing a chopper

Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-08-02 13:07
by aurimas
I once killed huey pilot with sniper he was trying to land safe

And one of my friends in archer operation killed a canadian pilot in air like 200m from ground with insurgent RPK.
Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-08-02 21:16
by Ewokinarmor
so in PR you can take down the pilot with a LMG/assault rifle round, unlike where in bf2 you need a 50 caliber sniper rifle?
Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-08-02 22:20
by Brainlaag
Ewokinarmor wrote:so in PR you can take down the pilot with a LMG/assault rifle round, unlike where in bf2 you need a 50 caliber sniper rifle?
I'm pretty sure the cockpit windows are impenetrable by small arms, or atleast by 5.56 rounds. If I recall right I sprayed a few Stanags in a mates face, who was sitting in a BH while derping around prior to a training session
Re: Chopper vs small arms?
Posted: 2012-08-03 10:53
by KillJoy[Fr]
Brainlaag wrote:I'm pretty sure the cockpit windows are impenetrable by small arms, or atleast by 5.56 rounds. If I recall right I sprayed a few Stanags in a mates face, who was sitting in a BH while derping around prior to a training session
One day i got headshot'd by a PKM during a gun run in a Kiowa .. piss me off ..