blackhawk physics

[Stemplus]

stop playing with the red font, It is fucking annoying. IIRC only moderators are allowed to use it.

I agree that the blackhawk physics are different than every other chopper in PR, but I don't have any problems with landing it. Probably because most of people don't know how to land a chopper in PR. They either fly around the LZ slowly loosing altitude, or they cut throttle and literally fall into it which causes the chopper to bounce and flip, sometimes even explode (kiowa). I think that the only thing some people need to learn is hovering with a chopper.

[SShadowFox]

When I'm piloting the BH I do some horizontal landings (if this is how they are called), I do it with every helicopter which have wheels, I take damage, yes, but only a few that can be repaired within a few seconds on the helipad, so for me, pilot the BH is not a big problem and I don't understand the point of this thread.

[FrostZeroOne]

Is this why people always teamkill this guy for fun?

please dont take this guy seriously, he thinks hes a smart *** and the best pilot in the world. (hes 13 or 14 btw). nothing is wrong with the blackhawk. wipe your tears up and carry on.
(im talking about crazyhotMILF ye?)

[Q2M100]

please dont take this guy seriously, he thinks hes a smart *** and the best pilot in the world. (hes 13 or 14 btw). nothing is wrong with the blackhawk. wipe your tears up and carry on.
(im talking about crazyhotMILF ye?)

LOL. Thank you for this.

I have flown in a Blackhawk in real life and it flies almost identically to the PR version. With two years of experience in PR helo flying, I was quite impressed with the DEVs work.

If anything needs to change, it is the noob pilots who complains due to their lack of skill.

[risegold8929]

Only thing that needs to be changed is the so called HUD that displays such high numbers for how fast it feels like it is really going (for all Helicopters in general).
E.g. 780km/h does not seem like 780km/h to me when flying the Chinook on Burning Sands (espically when the top speed is 200 knots or 370.4km/h and the Never Exceed speed is 170 knots).

[samogon100500]

please dont take this guy seriously, he thinks hes a smart *** and the best pilot in the world. (hes 13 or 14 btw). nothing is wrong with the blackhawk. wipe your tears up and carry on.
(im talking about crazyhotMILF ye?)

He just tell about it.

its fun isnt it ? what can be more pleasing then to offend a kid that english is his 3rd Language even the 4st and his only 15

he thinks hes a smart *** and the best pilot in the world.)

dat best pilots are just fancy noobs,i'll shoot him down via TOW or HAT or any kind of these .And such kind of noobs create squad assets rule,to disallow to ruin such assets only for themselves.The best pilots ever I know doesn't take chopper without reason,mostly even think that flying on transport chopper is a work for slaves.

and please tl;dr me,I'll going offtopic

And if I going offtop - the best helicopter work was on 1 WC RUSvsCAN on Beirut.Round start - the pilots take choppers,came to first 4 points to cap.On last one building a FOB and reserve FOB.Then,those,who take flags came to front line and attack.Then pilots leave choppers,take APCs at base,and came to front.
In all other tacktics was used one chopper - manned by commander.They also build hidden FOBs in enemy tails.

[Predator.v2]

I think blackhawk physics are great. There might only be need to look into the modell itself, as it pretty fragile. I don't even think it is a matter of hitpoints (should be around 1500), but probably a collision thing.

[mangeface]

(espically when the top speed is 200 knots or 370.4km/h and the Never Exceed speed is 170 knots).

That is contradicting statement. The NES, never exceed speed, is the top speed an aircraft can fly at or damage to the aircraft's airframe is imminent. Normally, the top speed is given at level flight (NES is normally achieved in a dive). And there's the cruising speed where the aircraft maintains the highest speed/range ratio.

I.E., the MV-22B Osprey has a cruising speed of 280kts, top speed of 305kts, and a NES of 330kts.

Back on topic, I don't fly on PR anymore. I've spent too much time flying on DCS Black Shark and Lock On 2, so the flight physics on PR are utter shit to me. To be honest, they always have been shit in my opinion.

Only thing I wonder is why the Blackhawks have miniguns when in real life, they only carry M240Ds (only the 160th SOAR carries M134s) and the UH-1Ns have no guns at all, when they are always carrying a GAU-17 (M134) and a GAU-16 (aerial M2 variant).

[SuperHornet]

LOL. Thank you for this.

I have flown in a Blackhawk in real life and it flies almost identically to the PR version. With two years of experience in PR helo flying, I was quite impressed with the DEVs work.

If anything needs to change, it is the noob pilots who complains due to their lack of skill.

The fuck? Nothing in PR flies like its real counterpart.

[Midnight_o9]

Only thing I wonder is why the Blackhawks have miniguns when in real life, they only carry M240Ds (only the 160th SOAR carries M134s) and the UH-1Ns have no guns at all, when they are always carrying a GAU-17 (M134) and a GAU-16 (aerial M2 variant).

IIRC for the blackhawk it's because it's still the DICE model, so it can't be modified, and of course making a new model is very low priority.

[karambaitos]

IIRC for the blackhawk it's because it's still the DICE model, so it can't be modified, and of course making a new model is very low priority.

but it has already been modified

[Blondey]

Haha, this is so true! Once you roll one way in a blackhawk, you either recover just before you hit the floor, or you just keep going and hit the floor! Buuut hey ho, beings akme challenge into flying!

[Xavo|xXx]

but it has already been modified

The model wasn't changed, they added the air intake thingos as child objects (sorta like a model that you can attach to a pre-existing model) so as not to break the EULA. They also gave it a reskin which is allowable as per the EULA.

They can't remove the M134's because they are modeled on the vanilla model.

[Stealthgato]

They can't remove the M134's because they are modeled on the vanilla model.

I think they already replaced them with M240s for 1.0?

[Rhino]

The miniguns are separate child objects, and even if they where not, they would be separate moving parts which means we could still remove them via code like in the same way we removed the WZ551 25mm turret and replaced it with the HMG turret on the WZ551A.

The problem is the mount

[SShadowFox]

Doesn't the SeaHawk have M240 and the BlackHawk have the M134? US Army doesn't use the SeaHawk IIRC.

[Xavo|xXx]

The miniguns are separate child objects, and even if they where not, they would be separate moving parts which means we could still remove them via code like in the same way we removed the WZ551 25mm turret and replaced it with the HMG turret on the WZ551A.

The problem is the mount

Well there you go then

[Hunt3r]

We should totally put a GAU-8 on the sides of the Blackhawk, because who cares about realism?

[zombie-yellow]

We should totally put a GAU-8 on the sides of the Blackhawk, because who cares about realism?

I can totally see the Blackhawk moving backwards when the two GAU-8 shoot in front of it x) Or maybe it would just disintegrate

On another note, I agree that the Blackhawk fly a little bit strange... I think he accelerate way too fast when you quit hovering, and this can be annoying...

And I don't have any problems landing it, I don't know why the others complain about it...