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Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-19 16:51
by ComradeHX
Gracler wrote:Grenades are such a cheesy weapon and I think the current amount is just fine, and btw a rifleman with his ammo-bag essentially have unlimited grenades. Just throw one grenade and resupply yourself with your own bag.
1. Grenades are cheesy? How? Kill/suppress without going into room at close range? Working as intended.
2. If Rifleman wants to drop ammo bag and camp there forever, sure...unlimited nades? If you throw more than 3, someone is going out there and stab you with knife. Otherwise there is nothing wrong with throwing a few grenades at a position with pre-prepared bag.
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Maybe PR needs to add crosshair to grenades?

I believe that is #1 cause of grenade fail.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-19 17:00
by Wheres_my_chili
Yall do realize you can just use the commo rose as a makeshift crosshair, roght?

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-19 17:31
by mockingbird0901
Wheres_my_chili wrote:Yall do realize you can just use the commo rose as a makeshift crosshair, roght?
Another way is using the thumb on the left hand to aim...
What I do miss is the power bar showing how hard you throw the grenade from vBF2. I mean, you normally have a rough idea about how hard you are about to throw something...

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-19 18:23
by heldro
I dont feel like the grandes are being underused. I myself use them quite alot aswell. As a rifleman i find myself reloading grenades on my ammo very often.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-19 19:58
by Pvt.LHeureux
mockingbird0901 wrote:Another way is using the thumb on the left hand to aim...
What I do miss is the power bar showing how hard you throw the grenade from vBF2. I mean, you normally have a rough idea about how hard you are about to throw something...
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Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-19 22:07
by mockingbird0901
Pvt.LHeureux wrote:
I fail to see your point...

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-19 23:49
by ShockUnitBlack
Grenades -

A. Are relatively easy to dodge.
B. Make you vulnerable while you throw them.
C. Guns are generally more reliable/convenient.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-20 00:05
by Cassius
I use them all the time, whish I had one or 2 more. To aim your nade, aim with your rifle hit 6 or wherever grenades are click profit.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-20 00:16
by Pvt.LHeureux
mockingbird0901 wrote:I fail to see your point...
Just agreeing that we need the throwbar back :P

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-20 00:35
by Gracler
ComradeHX wrote:1. Grenades are cheesy? How? Kill/suppress without going into room at close range? Working as intended.
I agree grenades are used as intended but when I tard rush into a crowd of enemy's and throw my magic stone and 3-4 guys go up in smoke I do feel like they should have won the fight and not me :p . If I had used my rifle id be dead by the time I start aiming at guy nr 2. because I have to be stationary to use a rifle unlike a grenade.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-20 08:51
by Cassius
It isnt just grenades, light vehicles are underused too, especially the humvees are very effective. Its instant cover more accurate than a marksman rifle and sends the enemy running. I used it on Karbala. I had the squad advance and the humvee pull up when there was trouble. Once the squad was taking fire in the open and all it took was for the humvee to assault to send the enemy running and kill a few while the medic revived. I ran out of ammo boxes twice.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-20 09:07
by Heavy Death
Throwbar, and slower charge would be incredibly apprecieted, devs.!

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-20 09:52
by ComradeHX
Gracler wrote:I agree grenades are used as intended but when I tard rush into a crowd of enemy's and throw my magic stone and 3-4 guys go up in smoke I do feel like they should have won the fight and not me :p . If I had used my rifle id be dead by the time I start aiming at guy nr 2. because I have to be stationary to use a rifle unlike a grenade.
Now tell me about those other 9 out of 10 times when you get turned into hornet's nest while trying to rush toward that crowd of murderers.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-20 12:25
by Gracler
ComradeHX wrote:Now tell me about those other 9 out of 10 times when you get turned into hornet's nest while trying to rush toward that crowd of murderers.
So your saying if I got the opportunity to kill 3-4 instead before I die it is better that I just kill 1 which could also fail just the same if he sidestep as i shoot. It is always going to be harder to shoot people with a rifle than a grenade, all you need is a couple of seconds of opportunity.
Grenade is silent (until it goes bang :p ), and it kill or suppress even a moving target.

I'm not talking about the success rate of a grenade when I call it cheesy because you fail as often as anything else, but the fact that your aim can be terrible and you still get some kills out of it :p

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-20 16:09
by Alfa
If you're working alone it's very risky to switch to a grenade because if you get rushed you're helpless, so i don't really use them unless I know there's someone else looking where the grenade target is.

Throwing a grenade right before you die can be also pretty lame too, as it seems that the grenade will "disappear" if you die mid throw before it hits the ground.

I agree that the grenade throwing power bar should be brought back as well...i mean the weapon overheat bar has returned, and that's much more technical than how hard a human gauges that he'll throw something ;-)

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-20 17:39
by PatrickLA_CA
I always use grenades, especially if I am alone and need to attack a position on my own, it helps a lot to clear some enemies in a room and create confusion for the others or get them wounded and make them harder to see you with it.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-20 20:41
by CR8Z
If you throw a grenade in the direction of the enemy, you keep their heads down, and you alert your team to where they are at.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-21 02:08
by Gracler
The return of the throw bar would definitely be appreciated.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-21 05:01
by Gouline
Good way to use grenades is to find a suppressed enemy and nade him/them. You should always look for "free" kills. (and when I say free I mean risk free)

Grenades are also amazing for suppressing. I always get pissed when I get blurred by grenade 10 meters away.

Re: The Grenade

Posted: 2013-09-21 05:28
by ComradeHX
Gracler wrote:So your saying if I got the opportunity to kill 3-4 instead before I die it is better that I just kill 1 which could also fail just the same if he sidestep as i shoot. It is always going to be harder to shoot people with a rifle than a grenade, all you need is a couple of seconds of opportunity.
Grenade is silent (until it goes bang :p ), and it kill or suppress even a moving target.

I'm not talking about the success rate of a grenade when I call it cheesy because you fail as often as anything else, but the fact that your aim can be terrible and you still get some kills out of it :p
So you are saying grenades do what it does better than rifle and that is cheesy???

Working as intended.