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Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-10 00:36
by LITOralis.nMd
ASUS Maximus VI Gene Socket LGA 1150 mATX

As Psyrus mentioned, the G600 is specifically made for MMOs, it's unwieldy on the pointer finger (gun trigger) for first person shooters.
I love Logitech mouse products, so for current generation check out the G500S, that is G500S, not the G500, ... it's the evolution and near identical replacement of the Logitech MX518 .

And yeah, the ASUS Maximus VI motherboards have superior onboard audio chipsets. NO need for discrete audio card.

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-10 01:13
by ShockUnitBlack
Not sure what your audio setup is, but something like a USB surround sound headset (eg the Logitech G35) could be used as an alternative to onboard audio.

In regards to the mouse, I'm currently using the Logitech G9X - and it's one of the best products I have ever bought. Logitech doesn't make it any longer, but they do make what I believe is its successor, the G500S, which Littoralis recommended above. I've heard good things about the Corsair M65, too. Gotta love Corsair.

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-10 02:38
by SnipeHunt
I'd highly recommend a SSD. A HDD is by far the weakest link in your list. Some of the other stuff could be argued that it is not a good price to performance ratio, but the SSD is a must, even if its a smallish SSD for the O/S with the HDD for programs/storage.

Posted: 2014-03-10 12:46
by Steeps
There are places you can read up a little more on the motherboard/sound card topic if you want.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/31227 ... -necessary

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-10 15:21
by Zulnex
So, here is my second revised build.

Graphics
GeForce GTX 770 2GB - $369.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/gigabyt ... 8-1285.htm

CPU
Intel Core i7 4770K - $369.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/intel-c ... 5-1382.htm

OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64 BIT - $99.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/microso ... 1-1285.htm

CPU Heatsink + Fan
Noctua NH-D14 - $89.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/noctua- ... m3-fm1-86-
47090.htm

Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Z87 - $154.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/asus-z8 ... 0-1285.htm

RAM
Corsair Vengeance Blue CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B 8GB - $89.98
http://products.ncix.com/detail/corsair ... 1-1285.htm

SSD
Samsung 840 Evo Series MZ-7TE120BW 120GB - $99.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/samsung ... 0-1382.htm

Power Supply
Corsair TX750 750W - $139.98
http://products.ncix.com/detail/corsair ... -58382.htm

Case
Cooler Master HAF X - $189.98
http://products.ncix.com/detail/cooler- ... -53776.htm

Monitor
ASUS VG248QE 24Inch - $309.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/asus-vg ... 4-1285.htm

Mouse
Logitech G400S - $39.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/logitec ... 7-1285.htm

Keyboard
Logitech G105 - $49.99
http://products.ncix.com/detail/logitec ... 9-1285.htm


Grand Total: $2004.85

I also have to figure out where to get cheaper shipping, but I will do that once this build is final. Due to work, I will not be able to reply for the next few days.

This build is not final. As always, feel free to comment and suggest. I appreciate it very much.

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-10 15:47
by Careless
I-Omer-I wrote:I am using Microsoft wireless mouse (I don't remember what is it's model). I paid it 10$ and I don't have a problem when I playing. If you ask me, an average mouse and keyboard is useful to play and cheaper.
This.

"gaming mouse" is a marketing term really (I'm studying product engineering, 90% of the products don't do what they're advertised to do, design and branding shapes the )

Of course, we should not exclude that a "gaming mouse" could in some cases be more comfortable to play for a specific user.

But please, don't buy it just because it's has a "gaming" prefix.
Go into local shops, close your eyes and feel what mouse is comfortable for you.


And again, I feel bad for forcing my opinion into another person, but if you have the money to spend (won the lottery, taxes, etc..) you can do what you want.

I even think it would be much easier for you to just buy a pre-build computer, since building your own computer is most of the times done out of necessity or not willing to spend that much money on a computer that has lots of useless stuff on it.

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-10 15:59
by Zulnex
You have a very good point Careless. I was thinking about a pre-built computer but they seem to be very expensive.

I like a gaming mouse as there are some extra programmable buttons on it (I play Simulator and FPS games).

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-10 17:20
by ShockUnitBlack
I actually use DPI switches fairly often on my mouse (more than enough to justify them). Double thumb buttons are an absolute must.

Posted: 2014-03-10 17:47
by Steeps
Yeah I love my Logitech G500. It really is preference between all the models they have. Just don't get a mouse with 9000 buttons, it isn't necessary. I have like 3 or 4 on mine. Really nice using one of them as a Teamspeak talk button.

Posted: 2014-03-10 22:10
by ElshanF
Steeps wrote:Yeah I love my Logitech G500. It really is preference between all the models they have. Just don't get a mouse with 9000 buttons, it isn't necessary. I have like 3 or 4 on mine. Really nice using one of them as a Teamspeak talk button.
Loved that thing. G700s is a big recommended upgrade though. It's amazing. Just more comfortable, -some- more G-keys and amazing wireless preformance. My g500 left clicker was a tad broke so Christmas came in handy !

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-11 08:45
by LITOralis.nMd
I'd suggest going up one step from this:
Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Z87 - $154.99

Specifically at your price range, you can get much better VRMs, MosFETS, capacitors and conductors for a few dollars more.

Here is the big list of Z87 motherboards,
Sin's Hardware - VRM List

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-11 11:12
by Psyrus
'[R-COM wrote:LITOralis.nMd;1989582']I'd suggest going up one step from this:
Motherboard
ASUS Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Z87 - $154.99

Specifically at your price range, you can get much better VRMs, MosFETS, capacitors and conductors for a few dollars more.

Here is the big list of Z87 motherboards,
Sin's Hardware - VRM List
I used to be really into hardware/builds and that list means nothing to me... What would you recommend for him?

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-12 06:35
by LITOralis.nMd
The general idea is if you're going to buy the i7-4770k and that excellent CPU cooler, you still need a motherboard able to run at overclocked frequencies for years on end without mobo components burning out.

With that said, and the facts that this is your money, and I'm a cheapskate, let's find the best bang for the buck to get a mobo that lasts:

ASUS:
Z-87 Expert
Z-87 Pro V (lowest spec'ed Asus I'd recommend for long term use) ( I own the Z-77 Pro V myself)
MAXIMUS VI GENE
MAXIMUS VI HERO
Good read on the Asus LGA1150 line up: ASUS Motherboard Differences & Naming Convention | Gamers Nexus - Gaming PC Builds & Hardware Benchmarks

ASROCK:
Z87 Extreme4 (This has been on sale very good prices in recent months, also least over-spec'ed of my recommendations)
Z87 Extreme6

GIGABYTE:
Z87X UD4H

MSI:
Z87‑GD65 GAMING (the least over spec'ed of what I'm recommending)
Z87 MPOWER MAX

In short got o Sinhardware link above, and anything that has high ratings on components and is recommended for liquid cooling would be a possibility. Then you have to pare it down to your price range.
Which is what I did above.

Posted: 2014-03-12 12:30
by Steeps
I would recommend the ASUS Pro V personally. I wish I had gone with the Pro version for mine because I have currently run out of SATA plugs with the plain V version I have.

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-12 13:31
by Psyrus
[R-COM]LITOralis.nMd wrote:The general idea is if you're going to buy the i7-4770k and that excellent CPU cooler, you still need a motherboard able to run at overclocked frequencies for years on end without mobo components burning out.
Does he even plan to overclock?

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-12 13:38
by X-Alt
A bit overkill, eh? You don't need 500000+ VRM phases to handle a 4770K.. A Z87-PRO\A will suffice... Even so, the 4770K is an odd chip, it really has problems going past 4.2 on the 50% and the other 50% of chips can get around 4.4-4.6 with out ridiculous amounts of voltz. A HAF-X is IMO, a bad choice... go 760T or 750D, newer and actually support decent WC loops.. If you want a HAF, go 932 or even better, the Stacker.....!

Re: New gaming PC dilemma

Posted: 2014-03-15 05:51
by Zulnex
Thank you so much for your help everyone!

I will use ASUS Z87-A ATX Motherboard and a Corsair 750D case.

As always, please feel free to suggest. This build will probably be final by the end of Sunday and I will start ordering parts next week.