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Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-08 19:00
by Bogatyr
Death! wrote:When will devs be updating the glandis shaped helmet?
I wonder the same, how long are we gonna have outdated Russians while everything else is updated?
We updated the Marines, Germans, all kinds of factions but not the Russians? Come on ..
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-08 20:51
by SShadowFox
Bogatyr wrote:I wonder the same, how long are we gonna have outdated Russians while everything else is updated?
We updated the Marines, Germans, all kinds of factions but not the Russians? Come on ..
Because until now no one showed up willing to make an update for the Russians, and the Devs have other priorities for the mod, if they updated the MEC, Germans or whatever else, that's because they had the time to do it.
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-08 23:57
by Rudd
Bogatyr wrote:
We updated the Marines, Germans, all kinds of factions but not the Russians? Come on ..
That is really quite unfair, the original Russian comfac team that made the Russians is almost completely retired now. It is completely unfair to expect the small core of pre-existing R-DEVs to update and maintain huge amounts of content that are handed to it by community faction teams to a great extent; expecially when that R-DEV team is actually quite depleted itself.
Go look at the community factions rosters in the archives, then compare that to how many of them are still active in the community. This small dedicated DEV team does it's best, but there is just too much content to make, to bugfix and to maintain according to RL developments like new camos and equipment. I don't think a single comfac has been implemented in PR with 100% of its content working or complete, and that task falls to whoever stays behind...it's huge.
I swear people thing the DEVs are salaried employees...
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 00:47
by Rabbit
We aren't!?! OMG!

Yeah, I was gonna say what Rudd said, but wasn't positive, thus I would be speaking out my ***. However, you can expect people who have their own projects to do what I considered a low priority fix. I mean shit, I have shikotan and sbeneh to take care of, plus my map for the finnish forces, and another project, then prww2, then other factions that have requested my help. Its not like we can just go in and change the kit geoms with a couple clicks of the mouse.
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 06:49
by Bogatyr
How was I supposed to know that the team for the RDF is mostly inactive? I don't know, I assumed it was the same team as it was back then.
Actually problem is not that you do not update RDF, it's that there is no news about it .. You know, like. It would be nice to know what you work on, what will come in the future. The Russians progress fast and, to see their new gear in action would please me definately.
Regardless, I'll wait
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 06:59
by Rhino
Bogatyr wrote:Actually problem is not that you do not update RDF, it's that there is no news about it .. You know, like. It would be nice to know what you work on, what will come in the future. The Russians progress fast and, to see their new gear in action would please me definately.
We generally don't show any early WIP stuff since people, like you, do not understand that we do this in our free time and for no money and a lot of the time stuff is never finished as real life stuff gets in the way of us making stuff, and we have to abandon it, possibly for good. If we show it then everyone expects it to be finished and when its not there is a huge amount of disappointment and flaming towards us... As such, we don't show anything until its basically finished and we are confidant its going to be added sometime in the near future.
Bogatyr wrote:Regardless, I'll wait
Or you could do what Hokunin is doing here and what we all did when we started out, and try and make the things you want yourself. As Rudd has said, pretty much no one in the team is working on new Russian kit geoms etc at the moment since we have bigger fish to fry etc and the only way its really going to happen, is if you or someone else makes it happen.
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 09:24
by Death!
[R-DEV]Rudd wrote:I swear people thing the DEVs are salaried employees...
So-sorry, I was just innocently asking. ;_;
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 11:38
by Bogatyr
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:Or you could do what Hokunin is doing here and what we all did when we started out, and try and make the things you want yourself. As Rudd has said, pretty much no one in the team is working on new Russian kit geoms etc at the moment since we have bigger fish to fry etc and the only way its really going to happen, is if you or someone else makes it happen.
I can't mod this game, and well, no other game. I'm really not good at modding, there is no point in doing it because I will mess it up, or simply not progress. I can wait, not an issue
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 14:21
by titsmcgee852
Bogatyr wrote:I can't mod this game, and well, no other game. I'm really not good at modding, there is no point in doing it because I will mess it up, or simply not progress. I can wait, not an issue
Every modder starts somewhere

Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 16:24
by Bogatyr
titsmcgee852 wrote:Every modder starts somewhere
Some people have experience previous to this. I'm sorry, it's not happening. I don't have the software, the skills or the motivation. Especially when I'm dirt poor
It's like real life, you go to hospital you rely on the doctors, and expect them to do their job. This is the same situation .. I understand though. Like I said, I will wait. It's not a worry. If I can help somehow I'll try.
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 17:00
by Hokunin
Someone wanted to see the updated camo on different maps???
3rd person:
1st person:

Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 17:02
by Insanitypays
Bogatyr wrote:Some people have experience previous to this. I'm sorry, it's not happening. I don't have the software, the skills or the motivation. Especially when I'm dirt poor
Photoshop CS2 is free and video tutorials are all over youtube. If you can run PR, you can run CS2.
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 18:41
by Rudd
Hokunin wrote:Someone wanted to see the updated camo on different maps???
3rd person:
1st person:

Excellent! well done mate!
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 18:43
by Insanitypays
Any idea when we'll be able to see these in game?
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 19:12
by Unhealed
I waited for it so long!!!!!!!111111
I'm not sure if Nosferatu told but you did the old version of the camo that will probably be replaced completely in recent years.
You can get the idea of how the updated pattern look
here. It's called ВКБО if you need more references.
I also think you should make all the gear in digital pattern too, becouse sooner or later old flora will be gone completely.
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-09 20:50
by Bogatyr
Wow, beautiful screenshots dude. Did you add those gloves in? Good job. Looks PERFECT.
In this video can see more about the uniforms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPAsgPR86zA
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-10 12:14
by Hokunin
Rudd, great thanks!
Insanitypays, I guess the next patch...
Unhealed, yes I'm working in close cooperation with Ru faction military advisor Nosferatu, every choice is made by him, I'm only the actual doer/texturer. Thats right this is old digital camo, but this one is currently the most widespread among ordinary troops, hence the choice, the same with the gear. They will be replaced only gradually, cuz russians can't just burn all those thousands of gears and uniforms in old camo in the warehouses. When the time comes(1-2 years? maybe 3), someone else will update the gear to digital.
Bogatyr, yeah the original gloves looked weird and didn't look something that russians would be wearing(plus texture seams bugs), so Nosferatu gave me references for the new proper gloves.
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-10 22:48
by Unhealed
Unhealed, yes I'm working in close cooperation with Ru faction military advisor Nosferatu, every choice is made by him, I'm only the actual doer/texturer. Thats right this is old digital camo, but this one is currently the most widespread among ordinary troops, hence the choice, the same with the gear. They will be replaced only gradually, cuz russians can't just burn all those thousands of gears and uniforms in old camo in the warehouses. When the time comes(1-2 years? maybe 3), someone else will update the gear to digital.
I see. Can't argue with a military adviser, I didn't even served lol. Besides you already did a great job, it would be unfair to just dump these textures you made. I'm so glad someone finally made them.
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-11 06:45
by Bogatyr
Unhealed wrote:I'm so glad someone finally made them.
Me and you both man. I think this pattern he chose looks good actually, only need to update the helmet too. Not just textures but you know. Overall, shape. And such.
Re: [Texture] Russian soldiers new digital camo WIP
Posted: 2014-06-15 21:02
by SyriousT
Its Amazing , keep up the good work