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In the mean time, why not give the RU Mig-29 a shot, considering it is/will be retextured and should pull a good fight.

RU
1x Su-27
2x MIG-29 with 3 AA-11s and 3 AA-10 missiles
1x Su-34

I might actually make a thread about the F35. If it's going to be in the game, some attempt should be made to actually model the things that make it unique. The stealth can't be incorporated, but the integrated data fusion system could be.

Truism wrote:The stealth can't be incorporated

It can, the AIX mod have it for their F117 NightHawk, you can see it if you select the AA missiles, but you cant actually lock it.

But think about this, how fair would that be? the F35 is OP as f**k already and now it gets stealth also, i think not! lol

Ye its quite easy to remove the heat sig from a jet to stop AtA weapons locking onto it, but gameplay wise that wouldn't be very fair as all you would be able to engage it with then would be cannons

We also have put external weapon hardpoints and weapons on the F-35 iirc which in r/l would ruin its radar signature which is why normally its only fielded with internal weapons, but that limits the amount of weapons it can take into combat, which would also be below our normal "Strike Fighter" loadouts of other jets too if we did load it up with only internal weapons ingame.


We may however in the future do a "Air Superiority" load out of the F-35 with only AA weapons in its internal bays and remove its "heat sig" so AA weapons couldn't lock onto it, but this is pretty unlikely and would only be on certain maps/layers if we did.

Come to think of it, why doesn't the US Army get the F22? its in more active service then the F35 isn't it, i mean the dutch don't have the F35 in active service, even the US don't atm, what happened to the "REALITY" WHAT HAPPENED!?, its specs are also more known that those of the 35

Rhino... please explain that

That's because PR is supposedly set a few years ahead, and it follows plausable scenarios regarding equipment/deployment in a new 'world war'. The same reason we have the MEC, and the same reason the Dutch get tanks, for example.

And specifically in the case of the F-22 there's also the fact that this would require a new model along with coding (and dev time/resources are limited) while the F-35 is already in the game, courtesy of DICE.

H.Maverick wrote:Come to think of it, why doesn't the US Army get the F22? its in more active service then the F35 isn't it, i mean the dutch don't have the F35 in active service, even the US don't atm, what happened to the "REALITY" WHAT HAPPENED!?, its specs are also more known that those of the 35

Rhino... please explain that

We have a F35 model from DICE, I don't think we have a F22..and lets face it- the US haven't got a small selection of jets ingame now

haha, fair enough, yeah i know it takes some modeling an coding to get that ingame

The US needs the B52...and AC130...and the B2....and the F117..........did i forget anything? oh yes, the C5 to drop supply crates with
^- That was all sarcasm btw

Honestly, the Su-27SM is really in need of improved maneuverability, considering that for all intents and purposes, it does rival the F-15 platform in that sense, and is extremely aerodynamically unstable, requiring FBW for basic flight.

X-Alt wrote:Honestly, the Su-27SM is really in need of improved maneuverability, considering that for all intents and purposes, it does rival the F-15 platform in that sense, and is extremely aerodynamically unstable, requiring FBW for basic flight.

This, also IRL it's one of the most maneuverable jets around with it's large wing surface area and turning thrusters. In PR atm, it flies like a rock.

viirusiiseli wrote:This, also IRL it's one of the most maneuverable jets around with it's large wing surface area and turning thrusters. In PR atm, it flies like a rock.

Being a supermaneuverable fighter, it should be able to keep with the MiG-29 without issue, the only time a Flanker has trouble is with a full tank, which for PR purposes is irrelevant, considering MiG-29s are flying with the same payload.

Has any developer looked into this yet? Because the Su-27 still flies like a rock compared to most other jets. A solution might be to exchange it with the Mig-29. The Russians use that jet as well.

Pronck wrote:Has any developer looked into this yet? Because the Su-27 still flies like a rock compared to most other jets. A solution might be to exchange it with the Mig-29. The Russians use that jet as well.

Su-27 is fine, I can turn with J-10s and Eurofighters just fine, just pull hard enough and it'll do it's job.

X-Alt wrote:Su-27 is fine, I can turn with J-10s and Eurofighters just fine, just pull hard enough and it'll do it's job.

SU27 is nowhere near J10 or eurofighters turning

Su-27 now out turns the F-35 in Hades Peak. It is a fact.

SU-27 fucking outturns the tornado now. It became a beast.

As it should, no? It is super maneuverable jet and I haven't seen Typhoon do stuff what SU-27 can.

Yes, it is. I like how it is now.

I doubt it is more manoeuvrable than the F35, but I'm not surprised that it is more than the Tornado.

Ghostwolf wrote:I doubt it is more manoeuvrable than the F35, but I'm not surprised that it is more than the Tornado.

The F-35 was never made to be a super manoeuvrable jet, like the Su-27 is and it would easily run rings around the F-35 in a turning match...