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Brainlaag wrote:You are missing something here Evil. Foremost the Chinese server(s) are completely isolated from the rest of the PR community. Hardly anyone that regularly frequents those visits these forums, or interacts with the rest of the community. Similar case for the South American and Russian/Ukrainian servers.

They play on those servers entirely because they either do not speak English/whatever language, or because they have xenophobic tendencies and like to keep to themselves. While PR is an international community, not all of it's players are.

But that is my point! They are raising language barriers that obstruct the community as a whole. Those tendencies are unhealthy.

Evilhardt wrote:But that is my point! They are raising language barriers that obstruct the community as a whole. Those tendencies are unhealthy.

They are NOT part of the community, they play PR yes but beyond that nothing. They don't make events, they don't participate in events, they don't frequent the forums, nothing. They are random smurfs, gap fillers, hell there has even been a recent report of SAGA (Chinese server/community) admins and members openly hacking on their own servers. Fuck them.

Evilhardt wrote:I don't know how many languages you speak, but personally, from the perspective of some one who speaks more than one language (including a little Esperanto btw.), I find it very annoying if people don't even try.

Esperanto is not a very good concept from today's perspective btw. There are way better, more modern approaches.

I speak schoolboy German (very Rusty) with a smattering of useful phrases in Itallian, French and swahili. (Mostly focused around food, shopping, but also some healthcare related ones).

Yeah it's not good when people don't try, but I find the majority of people not trying to speak a foriegn language are my countrymen We Brits (the English in particular) are lazy as sod when it comes to languages since English is the most widespread language in the world (Chinese Mandarin has more speakers afaik, but they are geographically concentrated).

Usually there are enough english speakers on EU servers for your needs, it's simply not possible to get everyone speaking English; although the people from non-english speaking countries that I've played with for years have definitely improved their English as time goes on.

And I think it's a bit unfair to expect people to learn another language in order to enjoy their leisure time online; especially when they are joining a server that predominately features members of their own nationality. That would be like going to a cafe in Berlin and being shocked that people in the cafe are speaking German.

The PR community has always been multicultural and that's something that is good about it imo, we've never had a problem with a lack of English speakers to the point the game is unplayable. Of late, it's a bit more timezone dependant but it's still good; particularly on Fridays and weekends when there are more players around.

Evilhardt wrote:But that is my point! They are raising language barriers that obstruct the community as a whole. Those tendencies are unhealthy.

lol, be Chinese and then learn English. Pretty hard I'd say. Or be English and learn Chinese.

It is perfectly legit that they have their own community. Same goes for the Russians. The ones that speak and understand English automatically join the respective servers as well.

If you join SAGA, it's just like a random Chinese person joining MeRk. You won't be able to communicate and understand anything. Thus you better stay out as to not distract gameplay.

The server were everybody was speaking spanish was DIVSUL Brasil/Latino, and I was on that match. That server is mainly for spanish/portuguese speaking people, don't expect too many english speaking ones in that server. As the guys above said, play in european servers (PRTA, NEW, MerK) and of US (HOG, FCV).
Good luck!

Brainlaag wrote:They are NOT part of the community, they play PR yes but beyond that nothing. They don't make events, they don't participate in events, they don't frequent the forums, nothing. They are random smurfs, gap fillers, hell there has even been a recent report of SAGA (Chinese server/community) admins and members openly hacking on their own servers. Fuck them.

There are players whom try though. Jolly went from no speaki English to Level - CIA spy. But I agree at least the squadleaders should speak english and it would also help when they arent nuclear introverts.

Spook wrote:Stay out of chinese, russian and brasilian servers. Majority there does not speak english. All european servers + american servers are 95% english speaking. And look out for the squadnames. If it says: GER INF, don't expect the guys in there to chat in english. They named it like that for a reason.

We all know GER Inf will cave in as soon as 2 english speakers join and switch to English : p . Except for westerwelle maybe.

What's the point of this thread ? I don't get it.

'KillJoy[Fr wrote:;2022260']What's the point of this thread ? I don't get it.

Well, maybe you should read my start post again then. Especially where I explicitly state what the point of this thread is...

Cassius wrote:There are players whom try though. Jolly went from no speaki English to Level - CIA spy. But I agree at least the squadleaders should speak english and it would also help when they arent nuclear introverts.

Exceptions make the rule, hence I explicitly said people that are regulars on those servers.

U.S, EU would be ur first choice coz most of guys speak English there.
Chinese, Japanese, brazilian will the the bottom of ur list since their mother language belong to other language family. Dont be surprised that majority of Chinese and Japanese or korean don't speak decent English.

Jolly wrote:Dont be surprised that majority of Chinese and Japanese or korean speak decent English.

I even apreciate the Chinese efforts for teaching English, I know that in the last 10 years your goverment has been really trying to make your people speak decent English. The problem is that China is gigantic and super populated, don't expect people from the country side, for example, to know English. After playing PR for a quite long time, I noticed that the Taiwanese pretty much always have good enough English, I guess it is because Taiwan has been exposed to the west way more time than China itself.

I never really got the Korean and Japanese problem, they are rich nations with decent education system, they should speak English in Finnish levels... But we all know that this does not happen.

About Brazil, our education system sucks and the English taught in schools is pretty much useless, also there is little to no interest from people here to deeply learn English even if we got a SHITLOAD of -- expensive -- language schools.

I remember when I played with you for the first time, we were in a tank squad on Burning Sands. I asked if you were German because you could sound from anywhere but China, you laughed.

lol

Death! wrote:I even apreciate the Chinese efforts for teaching English, I know that in the last 10 years your goverment has been really trying to make your people speak decent English. The problem is that China is gigantic and super populated, don't expect people from the country side, for example, to know English. After playing PR for a quite long time, I noticed that the Taiwanese pretty much always have good enough English, I guess it is because Taiwan has been exposed to the west way more time than China itself.

I never really got the Korean and Japanese problem, they are rich nations with decent education system, they should speak English in Finnish levels... But we all know that this does not happen.

About Brazil, our education system sucks and the English taught in schools is pretty much useless, also there is little to no interest from people here to deeply learn English even if we got a SHITLOAD of -- expensive -- language schools.

I remember when I played with you for the first time, we were in a tank squad on Burning Sands. I asked if you were German because you could sound from anywhere but China, you laughed.

lol

A bit off topic.
Learn english well needs interest and gifts.
In the past decade, Chinese Gov tried hard to let our people to speak english, but very a few of us can speak very decent english since schooling focus on Test. So most of chinese students hate to learn english.:/

As for taiwan, I don't really think most of them are very into English coz I happened to know some of them and we once talked about it.

BTW, a lot of guys think i am such a troll.

Good Evening,

Well, if your in my squad, you will need to speak southern or redneck. To learn this beautiful language, use the following and subsequent lessons on Youtube:

http://youtu.be/yhLBXjwFuqo

-SwampFox

I for one love the diversity of the languages in PR. I even specially learned some military words and expressions to be able to communicate with japanese, chinese and germans )). Its a lot of fun.

Evilhardt wrote:I don't know which servers those were. I will pay attention next time.

The Chinese one was -SAGA- 1#, though



And... I don't see Germany in the list:




It's not an issue though. Was just wondering why it wasn't there.

It exists, it's a bit higher up in the list. No idea why it isn't where it belongs. Changed it for ya.