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Danger_6 wrote:Best way to use the weapon imo. Supressive fire is overrated, only in certain situations does it really work.

Agreed.

Swamp -
The game needs players like you to hold the hands of the tactically deficient and strategically inept. PR is so much more than just a "run and gun" game. I have played enough with you to know that you have a deeper understanding of battlefield maneuvers, tactics, strategy, and how to win. The problem is, most players do not WANT to win. They just want to run around and shoot whatever pops up. This is why I have rage-quit so much in the last 2 weeks. Caches with only 2 out of 50 people defending it? Team-mates trying to cap flags that are not in play? (Uncappable) Flag rushing in the beginning of the map? Team-mates arguing over who has the correct squad name for appropriate asset? . . . while the enemy is rolling over the map!
With more players coming to the game . . . more problems as well.
Play smart. Play fair. Follow the rules.
Simple.
-granderslice

Good Evening,

40mmrain, while the importance of knowing the technical names of the vehicles in the game is not meant to be diminished, my point was more about the "in your face" type of attitude copped by some players regarding the terminology. It's almost as if they are the professor of this insignificant game and that they know everything there is to know about it. Put that same person on blufor with me running a squad of CIVIES on an insurgent map and they are the ones that kill anything that walks making the game go on and on and on and on.

On another note, have you noticed that everyone criticizes the use of any area attack regardless of timing and placement but yet cannot provide or agree on that time and place? When it really is needed, it has either been used very recently or there is not a single SL within a 100 miles of where it needs to be dropped..... too funny....

-SwampFox

Good Evening,

Have you noticed how some squads are extremely high maintenance? They demand that the commander work for them or they won't do anything for the team? I have never understood this as Mumble has offered so many options in the way of communications that the UAV is almost secondary to the communications.

Let's reverse the above. Have you ever noticed that when there is a commander that some asset squads ignore him when he points out things and then complains because he didn't tell them something but he has marked it, typed it in chat, and most likely talked to them via mumble about the thing that killed them?

-SwampFox

Have you ever noticed that players of certain nationalities refuse to work with players of nationalities different than their own? Have you ever noticed that they become a hindrance to the team, no matter how "good" they are? Been running into a lot of Koreans that do this, but there are some Koreans that do work together very well. I've noted some of them joining your squad, taking a sniper kit to join their two friends in the other squad that already have a sniper and marksman. Refusing to answer any calls from other squad leaders, being very blunt to anyone outside of their squad, and actually refusing CAS missions because "We don't want your target" to name a few things. A damned shame to see players so selfish. I've even been called a stupid fat American by these Koreans, and their attitude would fit under the perma-ban criteria for racism on several servers.

Which brings me to another point. Racism, even when a minority is discriminating against an majority, is STILL racism.

I'm not sure if SurfaceRunner is Korean, but he does an EXCELLENT job of commanding, communicating, and organizing attacks and is certainly above the mentality of the other Koreans.

If you think you don't have to work with the rest of your team, then this game isn't for you. I'll play with anyone from anywhere as long as they make an effort to communicate and play as a team.

I had an issue at one point where every Brazillian I came across was an obstinate *** and exhibited that type of behavior.

(Not romag tho, <3 you romag.)

PricelineNegotiator wrote:Been running into a lot of Koreans that do this, but there are some Koreans that do work together very well. I've noted some of them joining your squad, taking a sniper kit to join their two friends in the other squad that already have a sniper and marksman. Refusing to answer any calls from other squad leaders, being very blunt to anyone outside of their squad, and actually refusing CAS missions because "We don't want your target" to name a few things. A damned shame to see players so selfish. I've even been called a stupid fat American by these Koreans, and their attitude would fit under the perma-ban criteria for racism on several servers.

Which brings me to another point. Racism, even when a minority is discriminating against an majority, is STILL racism.

I'm not sure if SurfaceRunner is Korean, but he does an EXCELLENT job of commanding, communicating, and organizing attacks and is certainly above the mentality of the other Koreans.

If you think you don't have to work with the rest of your team, then this game isn't for you. I'll play with anyone from anywhere as long as they make an effort to communicate and play as a team.

I can't agree more man.

There is one guy which I absolutely hate and annoyed by, not giving his name.... but if you play on American servers a lot, you probably know who he is. (Hint: he constantly types in all chat).

Me personally have had issues with Koreans as well, but it's constantly annoying since some of them TK for shit.
I wish servers enforced this stuff more. No, I am not being racist against Koreans or any nationality. But, being racist against Americans or English speakers is another thing; yet servers do NOTHING to discipline those who do that.

I just can't stand when you hop on a server and the heavy asset users who don't respond or don't speak english.

matty1053 wrote:I just can't stand when you hop on a server and the heavy asset users who don't respond or don't speak english.

This is where the biggest part of the issue lies. I was on Karbala last night playing and some squad had built a fob in A1, in the corner of the map. Our squad rolled up to the fob with some APCs and the we let the other squad know (they were Americans) that we could defend the fob, as there was a civi in a car running over BLUFOR. We took out the car and got intel for a cache at that time that it was in the standalone compound with the silos and warehouse, where it always tends to be once a round. We decide to stay at the fob and build mortars. Coincidentally, some squads ask us to build mortars at the same time to help with the cache assault.

We start communicating over squad chat that we will drop smoke then explosive rounds on the cache location. We are dialing in and firing rounds and all goes well for a few seconds. Then some guy in my squad, I don't know if he was Korean or not, decides to point the mortar almost straight up and it comes back down on us. I thought there was a block in the code that would prevent people from doing this. Anyways, it comes down and kills all three of the people on the mortars. Wow that sucks. Then the guy who did it leaves the squad and all of a sudden I have 3 guys in my face that are a part of "1337 Mortars" squad screaming at my in broken English telling me that they are mortars squad. I don't remember them at the beginning of the round and they certainly didn't speak up with we were talking about mortaring the cache. Kind of confusing. We stay a bit to help them defend as a bombcar, techie, spg techie, and gary are all driving in our immediate vicinity. It gets crazy real fast, but we get out of there.

They end up surviving and we get the cache and move on to another cache within their range (on the left hand side of the "cross" of karbala.) We ask for mortars to hit the location multiple times, but receive no answers. I basically scream at them and finally get a "OK, we mortar now." No effective mortars come. I ask the mortars to correct their target and fire again. No response. I have to yell at them to get another response, but yet again their mortars are shit. I give up then, as a 4 man squad that can't mortar is useless in my book.

One of my squad mates mentioned they were Korean.

I'll be honest, a month or so ago, I had someone join my squad and take a sniper on Op Barracuda, left my squad and join his other sniper friends, and I devoted my whole round to obstructing his use of the sniper rifle. If he died, I just grabbed his kit and kept it away from him. I think I ran him over once with a logi by accident.

Pretty sick and tired of the admins not trying to enforce a high level of teamwork or even the "RACISM WILL GET YOU PERMA BANNED". If you don't make an effort to use comms when you clearly have them - GTFO.

PricelineNegotiator wrote:This is where the biggest part of the issue lies. I was on Karbala last night playing and some squad had built a fob in A1, in the corner of the map. Our squad rolled up to the fob with some APCs and the we let the other squad know (they were Americans) that we could defend the fob, as there was a civi in a car running over BLUFOR. We took out the car and got intel for a cache at that time that it was in the standalone compound with the silos and warehouse, where it always tends to be once a round. We decide to stay at the fob and build mortars. Coincidentally, some squads ask us to build mortars at the same time to help with the cache assault.

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Really? I was on there too on my bud's account... I was on INS, and I saw the TK messages.

But I do remember a little bit ago (few days or a week, seems like a while since my days go by fast.), on my Tank squad... some Korean (Was definently Korean, since one of my squad members knew a tad bit of Korean, and the guy said we are stupid;according to my squad member.) and he took a HAT kit and TK'ed us. Then he greatfully missed the other tank. Which then I told my squad member in 2nd tank to just blow his booty up. Then apperently my squad member got kicked for being "racist". I can't remember what server it was... but IIRC, it was Khami? I have never had issues with other Nationalities... Just Koreans (About for a month or so now). I thought some of them were "new" and I usually give those people a chance. (I recognize the names in PR... plus how they actually play, to know if they are new or not). But admins NEED to consider in this racism. Again, I do not have one problem or issue with Koreans. Just, there seems to be a group of tards running around and doing this **** intentionally.
maybe its north koreans... #conspiracy
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I had something similar yesterday with some Japanese players. It was so infuriating.

We were playing muttrah (surprise surprise!) as MEC and I was sitting on the stairs of the wraparound with an LMG just south of West City flag. I was getting a lot of kills and preventing the enemies from moving into the T shapes to defend.

After a while I am eventually killed by long range fire.

Just next to me, on the roof above the wrap around, was a six man Japanese squad. They were no more than 5 metres away from me. I ask them for a revive and I get no reply. So I wait a bit longer because they were taking some fire. The fire then subsides and they were only taking random shots here and there, and they had sustained no casualties. I then start asking again for a revive. No reply.

I do not exaggerate, but for 4 minutes or so I was asking them for a medic. Four effing minutes. Lying on the ground. Then, until the last 30 seconds or so they then reply to me, sounding very impatient and annoyed that I had dared to disturb their game to be revived. Their sl then comes to my body, and their medic slowly ambles over. I then time out.

There was literally no excuse for them not to revive me. They weren't taking heavy fire, I was so close to them and I was in very good cover. They just ignored me. And it wasn't because they couldn't speak English (as I said they actually bothered to reply to me in the last 30 seconds of my 5 minutes wounded time). I was even calling their names individually.

Now I don't think any of us are being racist by pointing these things out. I have noticed that some players of other nationalities that don't have English as their primary language are very reluctant to coordinate with players who have English as their first language, or speak English whilst playing the game.

To be honest, if they refuse to participate with the rest of the team then they don't belong on any server whether it's an English speaking server or not. Last I checked PR was about helping your teammates achieve victory, not playing in your own little world with your own squad.

I know some servers actually have rulessets which allow admins to kick for non-teamplayers. I suggest that any player coming across instances like these simply report them so they can be kicked from the server.

In a game where the teamplay is rapidly deteriorating I won't put up with this BS, from any nationality.

On a small side note. PR has always been a game that I have enjoyed to play because of the chance to meet people from all over the world. If I hadn't played pr or joined 3dAC I wouldn't be aware of so many nationalities. This is why this game can be amazing, you get to interact with people you might never have been able to before. It's a real shame when some people just refuse to recognize other nationalities and play in their small cohorts.

I am not criticizing those who join clans who have certain nationalities or language requirements. Only when these groups refuse to interact with others does it become a problem.

Danger_6 wrote:snip

I can agree somewhat, but it seems like certain clans. I can't remember this one german clan, they don't speak english well, but hell they teamworked like a badass.


But it's still ridiculous, I hope admins actually do stuff about this.

As well, to be on topic before this thread is locked...

Have you noticed that one pointless squad sitting in the same spot the ENTIRE round?

Good morning,

Guys, this thread was meant to be a casual observation of players and their nuances not books and volumes of information.

Refocus. Devs if you feel the need to close this thread, please do.

SwampFox

PricelineNegotiator wrote: I'll be honest, a month or so ago, I had someone join my squad and take a sniper on Op Barracuda, left my squad and join his other sniper friends, and I devoted my whole round to obstructing his use of the sniper rifle. If he died, I just grabbed his kit and kept it away from him. I think I ran him over once with a logi by accident.

A pretty ******* thing to do. It's perfectly valid for a sniper squad to contain 2 snipers/marksmen. If I was that sniper I would TK you for stealing my kit. Not once, multiple times. The TKs would continue into the next round.

seamus2008 wrote:A pretty ******* thing to do. It's perfectly valid for a sniper squad to contain 2 snipers/marksmen. If I was that sniper I would TK you for stealing my kit. Not once, multiple times. The TKs would continue into the next round.

Seriously? your on the side of the tool that joined a guys squad just to take a kit? Fuck that guy. Also if you want to do it properly a sniper would have a spotter not a second sniper.

Have you noticed how many times maps are overplayed?

Have you noticed the one APC squad constantly losing APC's?

_Fizzco_ wrote:Seriously? your on the side of the tool that joined a guys squad just to take a kit?

If you need two snipers in a squad, or a marksman in a small recon squad, yes.

_Fizzco_ wrote:Seriously? your on the side of the tool that joined a guys squad just to take a kit? Fuck that guy. Also if you want to do it properly a sniper would have a spotter not a second sniper.

It is unpleasant behaviour, but I think we should be blaming game design here. Forcing a squad to have 3+ players for a sniper rifle seems like it will encourage teamwork and reduce kit wasting, but it just encourages this kind of behaviour. I'd prefer that a sniper take his kit and leave, rather than stay and waste a spot in an infantry squad.

Also, TKing to annoy someone is just petty and childish. Please go play an arcade shooter if you are going to have this kind of mentality, Seamus.

Have you noticed that as soon as you find the fob and you tell the breacher to go straight for the fob, he first wants to be a super rambo and dies in the end. Resulting in a massacre and FOB being up at the end of the slaughter.

Nightingale wrote:Also, TKing to annoy someone is just petty and childish.

No, TK to punish someone for stealing kits. It is a reaction to petty and childish behavior.

disnoxxio wrote:Have you noticed that as soon as you find the fob and you tell the breacher to go straight for the fob, he first wants to be a super rambo and dies in the end. Resulting in a massacre and FOB being up at the end of the slaughter.

On a somewhat related note: In most games I see, it is very rare for infantry to defend a FOB that they have built. They always move on, optimically expecting the enemy infantry to never stumble upon it. I took advantage of this the other day on Kokan: