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Re: [Map] Operation Dragon Orchard (4km) [Released]
Posted: 2015-04-20 16:21
by Mineral
Vehicle coding isn't hard. Just takes getting used too.
Yeah for 1.3 we are doing a bit of cleaning off unused assets, models, templates, sounds, textures,.. I think. Should ask Mats about that
Re: [Map] Operation Dragon Orchard (4km) [Released]
Posted: 2015-04-20 16:24
by Zeno
[R-DEV]Mineral wrote:Vehicle coding isn't hard. Just takes getting used too.
Yeah for 1.3 we are doing a bit of cleaning off unused assets, models, templates, sounds, textures,.. I think. Should ask Mats about that
by removing them or fixing them?
Re: [Map] Operation Dragon Orchard (4km) [Released]
Posted: 2015-04-20 16:30
by Rhino
By removing unused assets and fixing ones we do use naturally.
Zeno wrote:i mean, its just a freaking tease, i really want this and when you know it would be an easy fix just to clone the coding from another vehicle...
It isn't quite that simple. Physics coding isn't at all straight forward as for starters, each aircraft is different from design, to where its "flaps/wings" are, where its centre of mass/gravity is, where its engines are located etc. As such if you just apply one jets wing, engine etc code from one jet to another, it can behave totally differently to the jet you cloned it from. And then on top of that we aim to try and somewhat portray each jets r/l capabilities in turn radius, speed etc.
Physics coding is mainly just a lot of trial and error, tweaking all the little bits of code until you have got the settings you want and yes while this isn't that hard to do, it is very time consuming. I'm just trying to fix up a jet now which Jafar has done quite a bit of work on fixing already and making it so the jet can take off well, but not turn on a dime in the air after it takes off is proving pretty tricky
Re: [Map] Operation Dragon Orchard (4km) [Released]
Posted: 2015-04-20 18:23
by Mats391
Zeno wrote:by removing them or fixing them?
Mostly removing. Some air assets might stay around tho as they are used on Test Airfield and i was just too lazy to remove those from there
Re: [Map] Operation Dragon Orchard (4km) [Released]
Posted: 2015-04-20 21:05
by Zeno
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:By removing unused assets and fixing ones we do use naturally.
It isn't quite that simple. Physics coding isn't at all straight forward as for starters, each aircraft is different from design, to where its "flaps/wings" are, where its centre of mass/gravity is, where its engines are located etc. As such if you just apply one jets wing, engine etc code from one jet to another, it can behave totally differently to the jet you cloned it from. And then on top of that we aim to try and somewhat portray each jets r/l capabilities in turn radius, speed etc.
Physics coding is mainly just a lot of trial and error, tweaking all the little bits of code until you have got the settings you want and yes while this isn't that hard to do, it is very time consuming. I'm just trying to fix up a jet now which Jafar has done quite a bit of work on fixing already and making it so the jet can take off well, but not turn on a dime in the air after it takes off is proving pretty tricky
B-52 confirmed
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I totaly understand. Im just sitting here in my corner, hoping that we might see more/better statics one day
Re: [Map] Operation Dragon Orchard (4km) [Released]
Posted: 2015-04-21 00:54
by X-Alt
Zeno wrote:...
So how bad can i expect it yo be? BF2 handling?
Is the Mi8, PT-76 and OH-6 with Miniguns also bugged?
PT-76 is used on Charlies', so it should be fine?
Re: [Map] Operation Dragon Orchard (4km) [Released]
Posted: 2015-04-21 04:38
by Jacksonez__
X-Alt wrote:PT-76 is used on Charlies', so it should be fine?
It's in Tad Sae alt (night). Not in any other current maps afaik. Though doesn't make any sense in that small map. It moves forward and backward nearly same speed, has AP, HE, HE(bugged?) rounds, like 8 each or 10. So not a lot. In real life it can carry ~40 shells
It also does not stand still. Slides slowly forward/backward.
Re: [Map] Operation Dragon Orchard (4km) [Released]
Posted: 2015-04-21 10:42
by zloyrash
Would like to see this map for infantry only. Many boats, helitransports and infantry.
LAV and CAS make it unbalanced
Re: [Map] Operation Dragon Orchard (4km) [Released]
Posted: 2015-04-21 11:28
by Zeno
What types of deployables does the NVA and US have access to?
@zloyrash: The ALT layer will feature a "king of the hill" layout with only boats and trans helis in the next patch.
Re: [Map] Operation Dragon Orchard (4km) [Released]
Posted: 2015-04-21 12:18
by Jacksonez__
Zeno wrote:What types of deployables does the NVA and US have access to?
@zloyrash: The ALT layer will feature a "king of the hill" layout with only boats and trans helis in the next patch.
NVA: no AA (TOW is SPG)
US: no AA or TOW
both get: foxholes, HMG, mortars