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Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 07:14
by Jamaican
id say ground then 1st 2nd 3rd - but i would call this building a 4 storey even if i only count to 3rd floor
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 07:23
by BloodyDeed
That explains some confusions when playing PR though.
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 08:21
by fatalsushi83
To avoid confusion I call the bottom floor of a three-story building the "third floor from the top" and the top floor the "third floor from the bottom." Naturally, the remaining floor is referred to as the "the one in between." You guys follow?
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 08:56
by Murkey
Ah this old chestnut. I mostly use ground 1st etc (the proper way) but if I think more clarity is needed, I'll clarify with the number of floors up from the street level, or down from the roof. i.e. Naughty people 2nd floor balcony, 3 up [from the street].
Just be glad we don't have to describe what a biscuit is in PR :/
Cheers, Murkey.
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 09:15
by Chip0
In Italy we use the British/western Europe way:
Ground Floor = piano terra (zero or "T" or "G" in elevators) ;
1st Floor= primo piano
2nd Floor= secondo piano
3rd Floor= terzo piano
Last Floor= Ultimo piano = Roof -1
a building with a 3rd floor is... a building with 3 floors; we don't count the ground at all
due to the notable differences, I always had problems to operate in buildings in international PR squads, expecially as medic (double Ts in Muttrah are my nightmare

)
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 09:25
by B2P1
This is how I fixed the problem in PR.
American English - My English
-----------------------------------
first floor - ground floor
second floor - floor above ground floor
third floor - some floor I don't know I'll call out on local
fourth floor - floor under roof
roof - roof
No more misunderstandings. As long as you don't use the third floor as much.
Edit: Is it just me or does the word floor look really weird? floor...floor... floor.
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 09:33
by Strategos
Maybe there should be an official PR floor designation just like there is a PR time.
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 09:37
by Mineral
All I wanted was a simple answer

Why does the world have to be so complicated!
Curse you Tower of Babel!

Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 10:30
by BroCop
Well it serves you right for asking in a new thread instead of reading the old mega thread on this subject

Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 10:55
by Raklodder
Now I'm more confused than ever (my monkey brain can only handle so much information) and you should probably make a new rule about calling out the correct floor and spare me from a potentially awkward and deadly situation.
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 10:58
by Airsoft
BlackGus wrote:My dad is an engineer and he said: "this is the right way"

Anything else is wrong.
G is for something underneath 1st floor, like an underground parking garage.
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 11:00
by Mouthpiece
Yep, here in Baltics 1st floor is ground floor so I've had my share of comm problems aswell while playing PR. I usually try to adapt, but sometimes I forget.
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 11:54
by MADsqirrel
[R-DEV]Airsoft wrote:Anything else is wrong.
G is for something underneath 1st floor, like an underground parking garage.
Americans never say ground floor?
In German we literaly say ground floor and then everything above x floor.
like this.
3 floor
2 floor
1 floor
groundfloor
---ground---------
1 undergroundfloor
2 undergroundfloor
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 13:02
by Cossack
Murkey wrote:Ah this old chestnut. I mostly use ground 1st etc (the proper way) but if I think more clarity is needed, I'll clarify with the number of floors up from the street level, or down from the roof. i.e. Naughty people 2nd floor balcony, 3 up [from the street].
Just be glad we don't have to describe what a biscuit is in PR :/
Cheers, Murkey.
For me its not making any sense way.
Like, I said before - whole eastern eu does not even have this term, like why would yours be the proper one?
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 13:48
by Murkey
Cossack wrote:For me its not making any sense way.
Like, I said before - whole eastern eu does not even have this term, like why would yours be the proper one?
Cossack, I wasn't being serious. Language is formed by tradition and use. It is an evolving beast. Even though we're mostly talking about speaking English, as we see, there are a range of localised social norms. By playing games online we bring together normally isolated linguistic forms and traditions. Hence the confusion.
Everyone feels, to some extent, as though their's is the proper, if not necessarily logical way. That's why these differences exist and are maintained.
Don't worry, I'm not arguing for Anglo-exceptionalism.
Cheers, Murkey.
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 13:49
by MasterX
I think we Dutch people have the least confusing way.
3e verdieping
2e verdieping
1e verdieping
begane grond (literally: accessible ground, like you can walk straight in without stairs)
kelder (basement)
Much much easier
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 14:21
by Spook
I have this problem every day. First floor is ground floor in russian. I have to force myself to say ground floor on every occasion, be it RL or ingame, I just cannot get used to it.
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 15:12
by ComedyInK
Ok, tell me this, which is the best way to detail the amount of 'level' in a building
Ground floor, 1st floor, 2nd floor
or
1st floor, 2nd floor, 3rd floor.
USA 1 - Rest of the World 0
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 15:27
by Heskey
(UK) Ground floor is the bottom floor, i.e. the floor where main access is gained. This is the 'first' floor of the building, but the first floor is the floor above the ground floor.
Here is a 4 storey building:
| - Second Floor
| - First Floor
| - Ground Floor (Street level access)
| - Basement
PS. Keep reading the word 'Floor' and suddenly it looks weird and doesn't make sense. Floor.
Re: first floor - bottom floor?
Posted: 2015-05-28 15:33
by Chip0
guys, it's not a match
technically speaking, with construction "levels" in mind, the US notation is correct
BUT
we (western Europeans) are all mentally conditioned from very early age to use the Brit one
it's the same with writings or comics: try to read original japanese manga (from right to left in the page and from bottom to top in the volume) and sure you'd have an headache