They can blow up at any moment if you don't keep an eyes on it
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-06 11:24
by Jacksonez__
Are we slowly morphing PR into Counter-Strike?
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-06 12:06
by LiamNL
That sounds exactly like insurgency.
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-06 15:03
by Combat_Sarge
No offense but it seems a bit boring, no new guy (which we mostly have these days) is going to wanna sit and do that stuff. I've been playing since 0.97 and it looks like a snore fest.
Posted: 2016-02-06 22:02
by SyriousT
Don't think new game mode , think secondary objectives like as Wing said Muttrah AAS , after like X minutes opfor get CAS for once and blue for must destroy it or blue for gets Abrams and opfor must destroy it (the side with less tickets after X minutes will get the new toy)
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Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 10:00
by LiamNL
I don't know if they can use conditionals on vehicle spawns except for time delays. And ofcourse the thing spawning should be reasonable and decently balanced, and this would also skew a balanced map in favour of whoever actually did the side thing.
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 10:24
by solidfire93
interesting
Posted: 2016-02-07 13:13
by SyriousT
LiamNL wrote:I don't know if they can use conditionals on vehicle spawns except for time delays. And ofcourse the thing spawning should be reasonable and decently balanced, and this would also skew a balanced map in favour of whoever actually did the side thing.
That's why I said after X minutes
And balance isn't a problem , in mater of fact. This will make the game more balanced . The losing side get a boost so they get as close to the opposite side as possible
The spawns aren't only vehicles , it could be small arms shipments
Like spawn extra limited kits like extra hat or aa idk
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 14:16
by SkyEmperor
SyriousT wrote:That's why I said after X minutes
And balance isn't a problem , in mater of fact. This will make the game more balanced . The losing side get a boost so they get as close to the opposite side as possible
The spawns aren't only vehicles , it could be small arms shipments
Like spawn extra limited kits like extra hat or aa idk
These kits are already deadly and sneaky, not sure if it's a good idea.
Talking about secondary objectives, we could have objectives to destroy, give you 30 tickets if you destroy them.
But, about the gamemodes this is not a good idea, this is too milsim for a game like PR. It seems like every suggestion you post is too milsim and overcomplicated. Seriously, there is Arma 3 for that kind of stuff, PR is a tactical FPS and so, really fast paced. Yes there is a strategic part but due to engine limitations, you cannot have these milsim navy seal real war army stuff. So please, stop. Like when you posted about tripping, I almost laughed. I understand that Liam is not very kind to you, just because he explained many times that things you suggest are not doable or not good for the community but you keep posting.
Keep in mind that PR is a free game based on a 2005 engine, even if it was a 2016 engine, people don't want to sit 30 min doing nothing because that's the goal of your gamemode.
It seems really boring as someone said.
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 16:31
by W.Darwin
SkyEmperor wrote:These kits are already deadly and sneaky, not sure if it's a good idea.
Talking about secondary objectives, we could have objectives to destroy, give you 30 tickets if you destroy them.
But, about the gamemodes this is not a good idea, this is too milsim for a game like PR. It seems like every suggestion you post is too milsim and overcomplicated. Seriously, there is Arma 3 for that kind of stuff, PR is a tactical FPS and so, really fast paced. Yes there is a strategic part but due to engine limitations, you cannot have these milsim navy seal real war army stuff. So please, stop. Like when you posted about tripping, I almost laughed. I understand that Liam is not very kind to you, just because he explained many times that things you suggest are not doable or not good for the community but you keep posting.
Keep in mind that PR is a free game based on a 2005 engine, even if it was a 2016 engine, people don't want to sit 30 min doing nothing because that's the goal of your gamemode.
It seems really boring as someone said.
What about mortars? I just broke your point on ''sitting is boring''
I think some people just like to come play ProjectReality and chill.
Not everyone always wanna have the heat and intensity of epic firefight
Actually, sometime I simply log-on to have chill social interaction with the community.
Goof-off with some guy in insurgency, talk and laugh together.
During the stress of a real war, being careful or careless of where you run and where you put your foot make a real difference. Stop laughing at this idea. If implemented correctly it could'Ve been pretty interesting and funny at some occasion
Also,
Pick up something and bring it somewhere else to my opinion is not overly complicated.
Nor do destroying secondary objective to gain tickets.
I really enjoy to take the personnal job to destroy the Quad-cannon in Kokan, it provide support to the team and give me a whole other purpose. It diversify the experience of the gameplay and personnally, I enjoy diversity.
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 17:04
by LiamNL
This isn't the squad forum through, so it doesn't belong here. Looking at people tripping isn't going to convince anybody about something we're not talking about, entirely wrong forum for that.
(The "I just broke your point" is just way too smug for me)
Destroying the quad cannons on Kokan has an actual function as the CAS on that map is quite vulnerable to it, but usually that task is done when it's convenient such as APC having a line of sight on it and no other priority to shoot at or a squad that was moving through the location anyway.
And the point on mortars, not every round has a mortar squad, only those who are dedicated to supporting their team or just don't have any other squad to join actually think of supporting with indirect fire, yes it's boring (depending on the position as vietnam maps have some hectic fob hunting from time to time) but some people also just go in it for the kills or because they don't feel like the action as you mentioned. Also those are aspects of the battlefield instead of the entire team sitting on objectives and waiting.
And to be fair, he basically is resuggesting insurgency with more sites in need of demolition.
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 17:10
by W.Darwin
Shut up Liam
1-Freedom of speech, if i want to talk about Halo reach, One-punch-man, or Squad with an other guy, I can.
2-I have been destroying the Quad-cannon with breacher kit in alot of round on kokan without anyone else doing it.
3-Mortars are fun as hell when you play with social people.
4-The point of having a HeadQuarter in campaign mode with surveillance-camera and Doors is that the whole action is concentrated in 1 or 2 points, so the HQ team would have to do alot of logistic work, make use of Combat engi and repair a broken door, broken camera, we could even have destroyable walls that could be fixed, they could also provide Ammo and crate for the team or even ground trans. your vision is just bad, you can't apprehend the positive, stop posting on my threads, thank you, bye.
Don't care about your ritualistic actions on Kokan as you do not set the precedent for how players behave. As far as I see that breacher kit would've been a lot more useful if actually used to destroy the enemy cache.
Yes mortars can be fun with the right people, but that doesn't mean they are fun always. This does not have anything to do with the whole boredom thing does it?
Also you claim for freedom of speech but want me to shut up (with a smiley face no less) and insult my "vision". And headquarters in your "campaign" mode is just horrible, nobody wants to be constricted to a camera and open and close doors for a living, commander mode at least gets to decide where the camera is, here you're just waiting for the odd chance somebody comes through, and then you'd have to use team chat (which is usually a clusterfuck which is spammed to the brim) to tell anybody else that random person X is at location I can see Y.
It would just take a lot more people away from the battlefield, those people would do more use if they just had a rifle and fired at the people instead of cowering in a room with high tech gizmoes waiting for anybody to pass by in your 2 corridor layout. What's the use of 4 by 4 km maps if you're just going to huddle in a 100 by 100 m area looking at people through a stationary camera that will be destroyed for lolz with nobody willing to repair your little toy.
Don't expect me to stop replying and being in your eyes a horrible **** because you think anything I say is invalid due to me not having the same frame of thought about gameplay concepts.
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 18:27
by SkyEmperor
Wing Walker wrote:That is a bit hypocritical don't you think?
This thread wasn't negative childish BS until you posted.
You can think something is a bad idea, but why do you have to sling personal insults around, starting a shit throwing contest on the forums?
Maybe someday we can all be as great as you.
Where did he insult someone? That is just the other telling him to shut up because he doesn't agree with his dankmilsimnavyseal campaign mode and then speak about freedom of speech lol what a joke.
Yet there are more important things to work on,also, this is not the correct subforum to post suggestions btw.
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 20:09
by LiamNL
Didn't claim that I wasn't smug, I just said it was too smug for me. Haven't properly insulted him since the first comment I made in this thread which he took to a feud between the 2 of us, which I suggested to take to private messaging to which he hasn't responded yet.
Also most of my perceived "shit slinging" was in response to his "shit slinging" and attempting to "shut me up". And still you haven't addressed my arguments about it being the wrong forums/media or subforum for any of this. This is a suggestion FFS, why is it in general discussion?
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 20:24
by W.Darwin
Skyemperor, the only point where you are right is the fact that this might better find its place on suggestion forum.
Other than that, you are not better than Liam, making your point with arrogance, ''dankmilsimnavyseal'' .
I guess placing C-4 is something overly complicated for your brain. Freedom of speech also come with maturity, if you cannot express yourself with respect, you shall get yourself shut! As Liam talk to me respectfully, I answer with respect. But this young guy struggle with his temper apparently and hardly can write down something mature.
Also, why do you feel the need of protecting Liam? I think he can stand for himself, I would've rather seen you reply me on the reply i gave to you on the top of the page.
Liam,
You are too much, I reported you twice now. You only come here to throw your shit talk fuelled with hatred and arrogance. Leave this place, I am not your therapist! You cannot use ''this is internet'' as an excuse. I am an adult, so you are. We are both human, we only share on a long-distance communication service. If that's an excuse for you to act disrespectfully, you are wrong.
The least would be to express yourself in a way I could be receptive! Not like a horrible ****!
if no one is interested, then the thread will sink. It doesn'T need your constant childish nasty attitude, thanks.
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 21:56
by LiamNL
Then I ask you Darwin, why is Wing Walker trying to protect you (or at least seems to be)?
Reporting something doesn't make it go away, I reported this thread several times now for being in the wrong subforum but nothing has come of it as of yet. Except for once in the beginning of this thread I haven't shit talked anything I have provided criticism about why I think it wouldn't be a good idea (mentioned in most of my posts about taking people away from the battlefield and other such arguments) and you keep dismissing it by not addressing it. Yes I am negative in my criticism, but you can't dislike somebody for being negative about your idea, just like I wouldn't be able to dislike you for suggesting things I don't see fitting in the game properly.
This is rather fuelled by my previous experiences suggesting things and annoyance than hatred or arrogance (also large amounts of boredom). And again you tell me to leave, but why should I remove myself from the premises? Because it makes you feel better? Because you don't want to face a negative opinion about your idea's?
You however seem to be insulting Skyemperor by pulling his intellect in to question, which I would say is quite hypocritical of someone saying I keep insulting them and seems distraught by that. And might I ask, what gives you these conflicting messages about me first being a child, then being a young guy, and then you address me as a adult and finally calling me a childish and nasty.
And seeing that this thread has been only a discussion between the 2 of us and Wing Walker and Skyemperor jumping in a bit to voice their opinions as if taking a side, I would say that there is not a lot of interest in the concept whatsoever due to lack of replies from any other source.
Re: Campaign mode !
Posted: 2016-02-07 22:12
by W.Darwin
You are right, I thought you could have valuable point, I gave you a chance to have conversations related to the thread.
But you keep trolling me for existencial value, wich is unrelated to the purpose of the topic.
I am forced to keep myself to my initial thought and stop ever adressing a message to you.
I am done Liam. keep trolling if you desire.
The problem here Liam, to give you positive touch, is that you choose to reply on the wrong points of the message sent to you.
Most of the time, you picked up some of the most unrelated point to the original idea that were the debate starter.
You need to canalize your opinion and focus them on what matters.
Or else nothing has value. And nothing is ever going forward.