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Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 12:54
by Mats391
Yea i think we should replace the G3 with the FN FAL.

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 12:59
by Jacksonez__
[R-DEV]Mats391 wrote:Yea i think we should replace the G3 with the FN FAL.
G3 as STD and FN FAL ALT weapon, why not that layout? Like, Hamas and FSA have got that kind of layout. MEC could use less scopes and better recoil control weapons.

Before you say I need to learn how to play with G3, come on. E.g Iraqi army uses AKM rifles with tactical scopes.

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Since MEC is a fictional army, why not mix equipment?

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 13:07
by gerardusnl0
a mix of modernized AK's woudn't be bad, even just the russian ones with a tan camo.
but are the g3's bad? HELL NO actually they're one of my favorites for long range combat, and even close range they ain't bad if you set up your squad properly ( i always make a couple go ALT so we can both excel in close and long range combat.

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 13:15
by solidfire93
Jacksonez__ wrote:G3 as STD and FN FAL ALT weapon, why not that layout? Like, Hamas and FSA have got that kind of layout. MEC could use less scopes and better recoil control weapons.
well not all of the kits

example : you can't replace the grenadier Alt with an FN FAL...

the medic alt should get one or lets say the LAT alt kits should get the FN FAL with RPG-7 !

something like this might calm down some players that Rage about the G3 which still i think
(and im sure) its the best Rifle in the game in mid-long range,
for God sake guys even you can go full auto on close range and light some one with less then 4 shots due to the stopping power of the 7.62x51mm NATO

AK is cheap compare to G3a3 and wouldn't make sense if you see it in the hand's of MEC Soldiers

but please don't remove the G3, that Rifle make MEC a unique faction.

any other suggestion to make PR great again ?

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 13:16
by Jacksonez__
solidfire93 wrote:well not all of the kits

example : you can't replace the grenadier Alt with an FN FAL...
the medic alt should get on or lets say the LAT alt kits should get the FN FAL with RPG-7 !

something like this might calm down some players that Rage about the G3 which still i think
(and im sure) its the best Rifle in the game in mid-long range,
for God sake guys even you can go full auto on close range and light some one with less then 4 shots due to the stopping power of the 7.62?51mm NATO

but please don't remove the G3, that Rifle make MEC a unique faction.

any other suggestion to make PR great again ?
Actually Taliban and insurgents get G3 but nevertheless, I think there should be alternative for unscoped G3, like the FN FAL. Keep scoped G3 and add FN FAL as alternative weapon for CQB.

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 13:26
by solidfire93
Jacksonez__ wrote:Actually Taliban and insurgents get G3 .
it's an Old Rifle, thats why they get it and you see it in the hand of the squad leader or the
trip wire grenade guy for the Iraqi insurgent's....(idk why he get one but still)

i must say your idea about the FN FAL as ALT for MEC....
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Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 13:39
by sweedensniiperr
Jacksonez__ wrote:Actually Taliban and insurgents get G3 but nevertheless,
Oh yeah, you mean like that one kit that uses it?

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 13:45
by simeon5541
Giving kits mixed with AKs to MEC would just make them look like unorganized
group on par with unconventional factions.AKs for Arabs and Iranians in all games
is getting old,they are simply everywhere.G3 is one of most widespread rifles in Mideast
that is produced there under licence,and yet no one other than PR realized that.
Oh yeah,they are great in game too.
Also,giving them something modern that Saudi Arabia,Qatar or other USs allies use would
be ridiculous.

As for FALs,yeah I like them,but I am more for them being used by one faction as MEC uses
G3s than mixed with MECs G3s,there were African Union and Brazilians on the way,but who
knows what happened to them.

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 13:49
by Jacksonez__
sweedensniiperr wrote:Oh yeah, you mean like that one kit that uses it?
They still get the weapon, lol. MEC and Hamas get uniquely MP5 even though only one kit (crewman&scout) get can have it. I don't really understand your point.

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 14:32
by Frontliner
I feel like MEC could use some kind of Paratrooper/Marines-esque equipment for urban/forested maps(such as Muttrah and Sbeneh). Would certainly make more sense in these type of enviroments to field either Assault Rifle(G36Ks, M4A1s or maybe AKS74s) or Sub Machine Guns(MP5).

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 15:05
by InfantryGamer42
G3 is best assault rifle in game

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 15:15
by Mats391
G3 and FAL are pretty much the same in game. For all of you who are not man enough for a battle rifle, nothing would change with that. :p

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 15:47
by FlOwMaKeRs
Jacksonez__ wrote:G3 as STD and FN FAL ALT weapon, why not that layout? Like, Hamas and FSA have got that kind of layout. MEC could use less scopes and better recoil control weapons.

Before you say I need to learn how to play with G3, come on. E.g Iraqi army uses AKM rifles with tactical scopes.

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Since MEC is a fictional army, why not mix equipment?

That AKM is beautfiul! :o ops:

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 15:59
by Teewurst
I have no idea whats problem with the G3.
Just because it behaves diffrent from the majority of assault rifles in PR, doesn't mean its a bad weapon, just because some players have problem with it.

I have no problems with this weapon on long to mid range engagements.
Yes this weapon is not that easy to fight with in close range, due to the high recoil, the rather slow rate of fire and the 20 rounds magazin.

But in my opinion you have to deal with it and need to adjust your movements/strategy to the capabilities of the weapon. Like you would in an APC, you cant drive it like a tank...

Its not that easy and often frustrating especially in close range, but another AK? Just because the G3 is not what you are used to?
Ridiculous

You can make some pickup kits and hide them somewhere with AKs but when I see a AK as alternativ or even worse as standart weapon on MEC, i will probably puke on my keyboard.

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 16:00
by FlOwMaKeRs
Exactly, G3 and FAL are pretty much the same in game.

Why not mix the weapons,better?
G3 (scope) & AKM (No scope)
G3 (scope) & AUG A1 HBAR
G3 (scope) & Steyr AUG
G3 (scope) & etc.


Any of those! We just need a change or mix!

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 16:50
by simeon5541
Yeah,and suppressors and tac lasers on some of them.
MEC would devolve pretty much if that would ever happen,
they would pretty much become BF2 version of itself,or generic
Mideastern forces from any generic arcade shooter.

Seems people want different rifle more because they don't like G3,
rather than G3 is actually problematic in game.
But if you are honest when you say you have problem using G3,then you need to learn to use it.
G3 doesn't work like M4A1 or Tavor.It is battle rifle,which means you will need to have it put on
single shoot fire mode most of the time,and use full auto at extreme close range in desperate situations.
Also,having some factions using battle rifle as standard rifle is quite interesting,giving variety to the game.

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 17:12
by ZektorSK
G3 is amazing rifle... I have many headshots with it

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 17:15
by MaxTheSilva96
I think the best solution would be to add an Iran faction, with G3 and AKM as standard rifles, and leave the MEC for the gulf states, with G3 and Steyr Aug.

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 17:43
by Navo
MaxTheSilva96 wrote:I think the best solution would be to add an Iran faction, with G3 and AKM as standard rifles, and leave the MEC for the gulf states, with G3 and Steyr Aug.
Indeed.

Mats, give MEC Leclerc.

Re: [MEC] Weapons.

Posted: 2016-04-11 18:06
by Strategos
Wow, I feel like I'm taking crazy pills when reading this thread.

The G3 has the best long-range accuracy of any standard assault rifle in this game. Give it enough time to settle and it becomes almost as deadly as any marksman rifle out there.

If you follow proper tactics and play in a squad, most of your engagements in PR should happen at mid- to long-range. This is even more true for MEC maps, as most of them take place in large, open areas. The G3 is ideal for these distances. It's not meant for close-quarters combat, but neither is any of the standard assault rifles on any of the conventional forces in PR. Even so, on full-auto firing mode the G3 can beat the M4/M16 in close engagements any day.

The problem here is not with the rifle, but with the user behind it. OP clearly wants the game to adapt to their specific play style, instead of learning the ropes of PR and going through the same training experience the rest of us did.

PR has never catered to players like this and I hope it never will.