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Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-02-27 03:49
by matty1053
I have to say, the admin response time is atrocious to real serious issues like intentional teamkillings.

But somehow they are instant response time to little events like someone asking a question in all chat.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-02-27 17:20
by =MeRk= BluFFeR
So decided to try this server again...

We made a APC squad,was squad No1, then realised as PRTA rules that it had to be named Armour. Quickly disbanded the APC squad and changed the name to Armour. Still squad No1.
Someone else makes another APC squad, I believe it was either squad number 2/3. Our squad then gets resigned with much fun and laughter from the admin over mumble.

This server and its admin team are indeed scum. They make up rules to suit themselves period.

I will now no longer play on PRTA, And neither will MeRk period.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-02-27 17:46
by Frontliner
It's only necessary to call it Armour when Tanks and IFVs are involved. LAVs, AAVPs etc. are classified as APCs and you will(or rather, "should") be able to claim them with your APC squads.

However, I do share the sentiment regarding the quality of adminship.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-02-27 18:15
by Web_cole
matty1053 wrote:I have to say, the admin response time is atrocious to real serious issues like intentional teamkillings.
It is also my experience that admin response times on PRTA are almost universally poor. Probably something to do with the complete lack of accountability due to there being no !admin command.

My main experience of playing on PRTA over the past several months has been being stuck on the wrong team and trying to switch to play with friends. Which is very difficult when one cannot switch on even teams and the admins ignore switch requests far more often than they respond to them.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-01 20:14
by ArkUTD
switch requests? most of those come in while the server is at 50 v 50, and that should be a indication that you wouldn't get switched. Also, its not a right to get switched.

!ADMINS is turned off because we choose to have it off, our server our way, but have you ever thought about why its switched off, the short mindedness of some of the people here is really funny.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-01 20:15
by FFG
ArkUTD wrote:!ADMINS is turned off because we choose to have it off, our server our way, but have you ever thought about why its switched off, the short mindedness of some of the people here is really funny.
A statement from the past was that the !admins command was turned off because PRTA didn't have enough admins in there admin team. That when people saw there were no admins that players would grief on the server....

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-01 21:14
by ArkUTD
FFG wrote:A statement from the past was that the !admins command was turned off because PRTA didn't have enough admins in there admin team. That when people saw there were no admins that players would grief on the server....
And that's the past, not meaning the present, if we choose to have it off, we can have it off

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-01 21:42
by FFG
ArkUTD wrote:And that's the past, not meaning the present, if we choose to have it off, we can have it off
I wish I could choose not to have accountability for my actions, Must be fun for ya.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-01 22:07
by LiamBai
ArkUTD wrote:And that's the past, not meaning the present, if we choose to have it off, we can have it off
And you can choose to allow intentional teamkilling and hackers cough if you like, doesn't make it a good idea.


Time for some feedback:

I find it a bit sad that PRTA is still openly sticking to this "no switch at 50v50, not your right" line. It's extremely annoying for clans or groups of players trying to join at any point in a round, even at the start. Seems even sillier when you consider that PRTA is founded on the idea of friends playing PR together.
Also probably worth saying that when I brought this up on their forums I was placed on a list that simulates a buggy, laggy forum meant to discourage users from using the forum.

When I asked about this, I was told it was an accident. This is obviously a lie; to apply this option, you have to navigate to the user's profile, select to discourage the user, which is a checkbox distinct from everything else, check it, and then save the user's profile. [Example]
Both using this on somebody providing feedback about their experience on PRTA and then lying about it are pretty disgusting ways to behave, in my opinion.
Who did this and why? I will probably never know, but it was reversed which leads me to believe that it was not sanctioned by PRTA as a whole. Sadly there's no indication of anything coming of this, other than it being reversed because I happened to know what it was and bring it up. Am I the first person this happened to? Who knows...


PRTA is a server that I play on only when my friends are there or it's the only <200ping choice. The gameplay is mediocre, the rules are bizarre and selectively enforced, the admins range from moderately to extremely unresponsive and are almost never held accountable for anything that they do against their rules or against good admin practice, even with video evidence.

Instead of considering feedback on admin abuse, good policy, etc., PRTA chooses to attack those pointing out flaws or wrongdoings, thinking that everybody reporting such things has some kind of anti-PRTA agenda. I can only speak for myself of course, but I would be very happy if I could join PRTA and switch to or be switched to my friends in a quick and hassle free way. I would be happy playing on a server where I don't have to worry about getting removed because I kick an admin from my squad. I would be happy playing on a server where my entire squad won't randomly get resigned with no warning while working together and breaking no rules. This is why I give feedback, and I imagine the same is true for most people in the thread, but it falls on ears which are at best deaf and at worst malicious and subversive.



Hell, this post will probably even get me banned.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-01 23:08
by fecht_niko
As a player who isn't welcome on your server and not having the best relationship to Liam, I fully agree with his feedback. If admins don't react or hold respondable for their action while not letting people play together... something is really going wrong. Do you guys really want to have a server where only noobs are joining who accept any wrong doing?

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-02 03:42
by gwa1hir
how long is this discussion going on now?
i think everyone by now knows how horribly administrated this server is. PRTA doesnt give a shit about that fact, same goes for the devs because somehow this is all gucci with the license agreement for some reason.

i mean come on guys....prta has a CONFIRMED HACKER among their LEAD admins. this fact alone is enough and should tell everybody what a shit hole this place is. what the fuck would you expect from such a place? that they admit their wrong-doings ? that they change?
FH was a horrible server but dutch at least had the spine and courage to shut it down before it could go farther out of hand.
prta on the hand will never do that. and the only hope you can have here is that maybe, MAYBE the DEVs start to care one day about this issue here and either take action or have a few harsh words with the administration. either way this server is a complete disgrace for the PR community

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-02 04:36
by Jevski
Imagine this setting:

I walk into a restaurant, get a meal and find out its horrible and I complain to management.

Next day, I walk into the same place to eat and I still dont like their food
The day after, I get dinner there again, and no change, I still dont like it
This goes on for weeks. I goto the same place expecting something different, yet its the same as always.

Who is to blame? The cook or me for for not having figured out that I don't like their food?

In short, if you dont like PRTA, dont play there. Geez move on will ya.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-02 04:52
by gwa1hir
Jevski wrote:Imagine this setting:

I walk into a restaurant, get a meal and find out its horrible and I complain to management.

Next day, I walk into the same place to eat and I still dont like their food
The day after, I get dinner there again, and no change, I still dont like it
This goes on for weeks. I goto the same place expecting something different, yet its the same as always.

Who is to blame? The cook or me for for not having figured out that I don't like their food?

In short, if you dont like PRTA, dont play there. Geez move on will ya.
classic ignorant jevski post....sometimes there is no other european server online. do you understand that? sometimes one server is the only option. are you able to comprehend this fact?

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-02 05:50
by ArkUTD
You guys make me laugh,

Liam, it maybe extreamly annoying to you how our 50 v 50 works, let me explain. In a far gone time, people could switch back and thought at will, cussing team unbalances, I had one occasion when I switched two clan mates to one team (losing to winning) and because the losing side saw this, many people left, in the end the server balanced at 39 v 50, do you think that's healthy?

The no switch rule is there for the above not to happen again. And I remember you reporting to be switched, and it wasn't very nice how you demanded it to happen.

And you say we attack those how give negative views on what we do, not really, you post on our forums was actually very calm, with the admins giving you a very quick reason or what happened, and yet you escalated it, and we kept to what we said, because that was our stance on the matter.

I also find it funny the MERK won't be player on PRTA anymore, funny all that steamed from there leader not able to read the rules on that the brdm-2 is a scout asset, but hey, I gave him time and he became a cry baby.

You can all hate us, but in the end, the admin team have been trying there hardest to look after the server, they are players as well, aren't we allowed to enjoy the game just as much as you?

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-02 06:34
by gwa1hir
ArkUTD wrote:You guys make me laugh
that sums up perfectly your servers attitude towards improvement and negative feedback.
thanks for showing it once again since it saves me the effort to comment on the rest of your ignorant statement.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-02 07:42
by Vatsug
PRTA is a great server with solid staff

1. We don't always kick people teamkilling instantly. Why? Because we communicate with the admin on the victim's team, check the logs and make sure it actually was intentional / happened. THEN we act. This way, you might not get your instant "hah in your face tk'er" experience, but the real culprit is punished.
As this thread proves, false reporting is quite common

2. FFG, the guy you're talking about, that was my doing. He had been kicked for trolling around and spamming, annoying a bunch of players. He then returned believing he had any rights on the server. When you try to make the game experience worse for anyone around you, I reserve my right not to switch you over until you've calmed down and thought about your wrongdoings. The subject knew of this, as I had explained it to him, yet he continued to spam "!r switch me over to my squad" in allchat, which lead to me kicking him for spam / trying to stir up trouble again.
This just shows how this thread goes - Players making accusations based on? Nothing. Don't judge a book by its cover.

3. Being Squad Nr. 1 doesn't mean you're the first squad. A squad may have been created as squad 1, then disbanded. Whoever's named correctly and created first reserves the right to use the assets they've claimed. I suggest you read up on our rules before you complain about them, ARMOUR = IFVs / Tanks / Scout Vehicles. It sounds like a misunderstanding of the rules on your part.

4. Personal insults on the forum? Ark is a great guy who cares about the PR community. He has money to spare, which he has decided to spend on keeping a solid community, in a game that's dying, alive. I see no reason to disrespect him for that. If you were to be a functional member of society you'd know that isn't too high of a sum to spend on a hobby.

5. To those of you here who are permabanned. Don't fool yourselves. It takes incredibly much to be permabanned on PRTA. And if you think you didn't do much, then appeal it / reevaluate your self-perception.

With the election of Trump it doesn't really surprise me anymore that threads like these appear. People spending their days trying to find every speck of dirt to throw at us, with most of it being made up / twisted to serve their intentions. Stop being bitter because PRTA doesn't approve of trolls and get on with your lives.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-02 08:01
by =MeRk= BluFFeR
ArkUTD wrote: I also find it funny the MERK won't be player on PRTA anymore, funny all that steamed from there leader not able to read the rules on that the brdm-2 is a scout asset, but hey, I gave him time and he became a cry baby.
MeRk Wont play there due to you and your admins, you are the classic "if I dont get the asset I want I will kick you" Pure and simple admin abuse.
Your man management is atrocious,and your accountability pitiful at best.
Who are you anyway? pops up out of nowhere,trying to pay yourself to the top. Get a few admin rights and you think you are the great Tsar of PR.
Let me get one thing straight,you mean nothing to me,I do not care what you think,who you are or how big your E-penis is,your a child with a little bit of internet power that is all.

I didnt cry about anything either,I gave valid feedback concerning your abuse,but low and behold another classic PRTA response "cry baby".
You can all hate us, but in the end, the admin team have been trying there hardest to look after the server, they are players as well, aren't we allowed to enjoy the game just as much as you?
Yes they could,the problem lies with them kicking players off the server and resigning players so admins can get assets so they can have their fun,to be honest it looks like you are having more fun that the rest of the players who frequent your server... I suggest you try harder because if this is your hardest its pathetic.



Grow some balls little man and take account of your actions.


P.S And if Clayton has anything thing to say,tell him to say it on here rather than hiding under the cover of PRTA's shoutbox! Another little man with no Balls.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-02 08:56
by Vatsug
=MeRk= BluFFeR wrote:MeRk Wont play there due to you and your admins, you are the classic "if I dont get the asset I want I will kick you" Pure and simple admin abuse.
Your man management is atrocious,and your accountability pitiful at best.
Who are you anyway? pops up out of nowhere,trying to pay yourself to the top. Get a few admin rights and you think you are the great Tsar of PR.
Let me get one thing straight,you mean nothing to me,I do not care what you think,who you are or how big your E-penis is,your a child with a little bit of internet power that is all.

I didnt cry about anything either,I gave valid feedback concerning your abuse,but low and behold another classic PRTA response "cry baby".



Yes they could,the problem lies with them kicking players off the server and resigning players so admins can get assets so they can have their fun,to be honest it looks like you are having more fun that the rest of the players who frequent your server... I suggest you try harder because if this is your hardest its pathetic.



Grow some balls little man and take account of your actions.


P.S And if Clayton has anything thing to say,tell him to say it on here rather than hiding under the cover of PRTA's shoutbox! Another little man with no Balls.
If the rabbit doesn't fit, don't force it. Once again you're completely oblivious to the point. It's not admin abuse, it's you actually violating the rules and yet again you try to "dignify" this violation by completely ignoring it while blaming it on us with childish comments about the size of our penises and balls. (come on..)
What Ark "thinks" in this matter is not what matters, what matters is what our server rules are stating, which is what he tried telling you.
Seeing your responses here, I find it hard to believe we were unjust against you - Once you leave this sphere of obliviousness and actually read our rules, you have every right to respectfully say your opinion about them on the PRTA forums. Until then (I'm assuming you're some sort of head of Merk), you're representing a server and a Clan. At the moment you're not painting the best picture of either one.

This is not a feedback thread, it's a rant - Hence we don't take it serious. If you want people from PRTA to take this thread seriously, stop throwing childish insults. Do your research properly, which you would've learned if had you attended an University.
You see, as the overused, yet still valid quote by Mark Twain says: "Never argue with stupid people, they'll drag you down to their own level and beat you with experience." That alone is one reason you're not receiving any proper responses from the higher PRTA Management in this thread.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-02 09:13
by fecht_niko
Vatsug wrote: Until then (I'm assuming you're some sort of head of Merk), you're representing a server and a Clan. At the moment you're not painting the best picture of either one.

Do your research properly, which you would've learned if had you attended an University.
I'm sure that most people here made their opinion about Merk or Bluff years before you even joined the community...

And pls dont try to act like a smart *** because your whole community including rules, admins, .... lost their last piece of common sense.

Re: PRTA

Posted: 2017-03-02 09:14
by Clund
Clans don't want to play on one specific side, they want to play together. As you said, communication is the key. Clans are usually very cooperative if you ask them nicely if they want to switch to the loosing side in order to balance. So you can merge a Clan together while giving the loosing team another chance.

Normally you do it at the Beginning of every round, planning it during the previous match.

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