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Posted: 2005-07-26 05:39
by GABBA
DR zero sum's it up rigth there. At one stage in a game i was going up a "hill" and all my teammates got out and decided to walk the rest of the way, which was about 100 metre's and they beat me there.

Posted: 2005-07-26 05:45
by Djuice
hahah. then maybe i should make the M1A2 travel at 500kph, then there will be no problem climbing up hills :D

Posted: 2005-07-26 06:06
by Boobs McGee
Oh Pally you know I have to reply in your topic. I say that it could be sped up a bit. Now if you could code the thing so that you could not fire while driving it at top speed that would be very good. Tankers don't drive their tanks at full speed firing off SABOT rounds. Just my 2 cents.

Posted: 2005-07-26 11:26
by GABBA
Are you trying to make it go airborne Djuice. :D

Posted: 2005-07-26 12:13
by Tom#13
how fast is the challenger 2?

Posted: 2005-07-26 14:51
by Djuice
Crew Commander, gunner, loader, driver
Weight 62500 kilograms
Hull dimensions approximate length 8.330 meters x width 3.50 meters
approximate length with gun forward, 11.50 meters
approximate height 2.50 meters
Speed 59 kilometers./hour by road
40 kilometers./hour cross country
Range 450 kilometers. by road
250 kilometers. cross country
Armament one 120 mm, model L30 gun
one 7.62 mm Chain Gun
one 7.62 mm, model L37A2 anti-aircraft gun

Posted: 2005-07-26 14:54
by Tom#13
damn djuice your a walking encyclopedia. cheers

Posted: 2005-07-26 15:04
by Djuice
the Challenger Armour values

Armour values in mm (RHAe) Against Kinetic

Turret: 920-960
Glacis:660
Lower front hull: 590

Armour values in mm (RHAe) Against Chemical

Turret: 1450-1700
Glacis:1000
Lower front hull: 860

Leopard 2A6 Armour values

Armour values in mm (RHAe) Against Kinetic

Turret: 920-940
Glacis:620
Lower front hull: 620

Armour values in mm (RHAe) Against Chemical

Turret: 1730-1960
Glacis: 750
Lower front hull: 750

God damn the chally and Leopard 2A6 is a bloody armoured elephant. more Heavily armoured then a M1A2SEP.. that the US army uses..

Posted: 2005-07-26 15:28
by Tacamo
Saw some pics of that prototype Leo 2 with the 140mm cannon. That'd be a scarier site than the default model.

Posted: 2005-07-26 17:28
by Tom#13
which is better the leo abrams or challenger? and no country favoritism.
im undecided.

Posted: 2005-07-26 17:30
by BrokenArrow
isnt the challenger supposed to be the best modern tank? although germans know their military hardware...

Posted: 2005-07-26 17:42
by Tom#13
yeah i wanted to say challenger but ithought it was just favortism. but i looked it up, i dont know if its true but the challenger 2 is the only modern tank that can fire if its engines blown up. my uncle in the TA drives one and it is a BEAST. ill see if ican get a video of it in action
found a great site its got videos of challengers as90 even mortars and a battle scenario.
http://www.janes.com/defence/land_force ... ideo.shtml

Posted: 2005-07-26 17:42
by BrokenArrow
plus its armor kicks *** too doesnt it? all classified stuff.

Posted: 2005-07-26 17:43
by Figisaacnewton
About how the abrams is going too fast or slow...
the numbers requiem gave us can't be right, it's the Bf2 engine being stupid.

No way in hell the max speed of an abrams in BF2 is 60mph, its more like 40 or 35. it just needs more torque....and it needs to be heavier, so that when it hits things it doesnt bounce back, it just stops. also, lots of flimsy things need to be made so they are breakable, like all of those stupid alluminum foil or whatever fences, and small trees (10 - 20 feet tall trees)

Posted: 2005-07-26 17:50
by Djuice
yeah, while i was doing the vehicle physics i totally disregard that ingame speedometer its totally outter whack!

A soldier sprinting = 70kph...

Anyways, i reckon the Isreali Merkava Mk4 or the French Leclerc MBTs are similar matched to the Challenger and M1A2. Tho the 140mm Leopard 2A6 would be the most powerful in offence/defence buts that in a prototype stage..

Challenger/M1A2/Leopard 2A6/Leclerc/Merkava Mk4 are all in the same league in technology wise..

Posted: 2005-07-26 17:51
by Tom#13
hey u gotta see the videos they got on thast link i posted if u look around the sight they got videos for nearly every army on earth

Posted: 2005-07-26 17:56
by TerribleOne
[R-DEV wrote:Paladin-X]In case no one noticed requiem's post, the m1a2 in bf2 goes 100kph which is about 62mph. It should only go about 42mph/68kph. And you can go from 0-100kph in under 2secs.
Yea i also noticed that the speeds arnt correct that are displayed. No way do tanks in bf2 go 62mph because if it was translated realisticly youd be flying by everywhere - if i dident catch your reply correctly im sorry.

Posted: 2005-07-26 17:58
by TerribleOne
BrokenArrow wrote:plus its armor kicks *** too doesnt it? all classified stuff.
sorry for a double post but yeh only the UK and US are aware of its making i think. Its weaved in some special way so its like metal cloth - probably simiular to carbon only with other stuf in it too.

Posted: 2005-07-26 18:02
by Djuice
From what i gathered the armour on the M1A1 and newer models are

4 Layers of Reinforced Steel plates with 1 plate of Ceramic and 1 Plate of Deplete Uranium. And they have 18 of these plates located within the frontal layers of the turret..