Ships?

Sealights · Post by **Sealights** » 2007-03-24 19:06

Nice static with helipad and guided missiles... gg

Blackhawk 5 · Post by **Blackhawk 5** » 2007-03-24 19:42

Can it be done: Yes, but not perfectly. Although you can make them the bf2 engine restricts people from walking around or vehicles to be "vehicle on a vehicle" which ends up the driver tk the passengers if they are not inside. Navy dont use battleships no more either.

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2007-03-25 11:48

ya but make a crusier have the 3 arty guns on it in so they arnt on shore. And maybe we could make a map like a BF1942 mod made all water and the ships justed atacked but we should add some land.

Liquid_Cow · Post by **Liquid_Cow** » 2007-03-25 17:35

I always thought the idea of having arty on the beach at Oman was a little cheesey, there should be a destroyer out with the carrier and that's where the arty shoots from.

There is another mod, released 3 days ago, that seeks to recreate the first large battle ships of the 1890's-1900's. Called "Battleship." Looks interesting, I plan on checking it out.

http://mods.moddb.com/8217/battleship/

As for the RIB thing, I too have never really liked them, but this is a "reality" mod, and what is out there in that catagory? USN Has the MarkV SEAL insertion craft, but its not a gun boat. There are PBR's, but they are intended for rivine patrols (Parol Boat, River), not beach assault. There are several version of RIB assault boats, my personal favorite is the S.A.F.E Boats the USMC uses:

The United States Marine Corp SURC is a highly maneuverable, rapidly deployable, high-speed littoral and riverine craft. This craft has expanded the Marine Corps capabilities.

Then there is the "Combat Boat 90" also by SAFE boats used by the Swedish Navy

The Swedish shipbuilder DOCKSTAVARVET developed the CB90 Combat Boat in conjunction with the Swedish Navy. Over 225 boats have already been supplied to multiple countries worldwide. The CB90 is constructed of aluminum and designed to operate as a fast attack boat, patrol boat and special operations support vessel. Heavy machine guns are mounted in fixed installations, or stabilized and remotely controlled from a monitor in the wheelhouse. The boat can also carry mines or Hellfire missiles, and a gyro-stabilized twin-barrel 12-cm mortar. The innovative drop bow system allows for easy troop deployment or the rapid extraction of injured personnel

Lothrian · Post by **Lothrian** » 2007-03-25 18:12

Imagine turning up to Monaco harbour in that CB90!!!

Woody · Post by **Woody** » 2007-03-25 18:22

Another problem with boats in BF2 is how far up on land they can get. That would never happen in real life. For instance, I was driving a little dingy and drove it up to the shore and the rudder didn't make it out of the water. In BF2 you can get all the way up to a flag in a boat sometimes.

Comet241 · Post by **Comet241** » 2007-03-25 18:34

How about a map like the special forces one that takes place on a boat.... except without the lame "boarding" part of it with helo's and boats assaulting the carrier.... not very realistic. However.... a map that takes place in the maze of a carrier would be nice in pr. maybe something like chinese commando's have boarded a carrier and it's up to the marines to clear them all out.... eh, im just talking out of my ***

Longbow* · Post by Longbow* » 2007-03-25 19:05

Arleigh Burke or Ticonderoga would be perfect . Make them static with ability to launch cruise missiles ( maybe pointed with SOFLAM ) and common arty ... + maybe one choper .

Bodybag2224 · Post by **Bodybag2224** » 2007-03-26 00:19

In response to the person who said that the engine limits "vehicle on vehicle" that is not true. There is a way for you to have that, but I have no idea how to, but it has been done. The WWII mod for BF2 allowed people to walk around inside of a transport plane, and someone had made a C-47 model and managed to make it so you could load vehicles into the cargo bay, and have the entire thing not blow up. I just can't find where I read/saw this footage.

Woody · Post by **Woody** » 2007-03-26 00:41

Please please please please please find that. That would be sooo cool. And to add to that, I think Forgotten Hope has something like that going on with their carriers and battleships.

Post by **77SiCaRiO77** » 2007-03-26 01:55

yeah , i saw 3 pictures of a carrier (the royal something) in wake 2007 with a swordfish on the top .

Liquid_Cow · Post by **Liquid_Cow** » 2007-03-26 02:30

'[R-PUB wrote:Woody']Another problem with boats in BF2 is how far up on land they can get. That would never happen in real life.

When I used to fish off of Cape Cod, there were a lot of sport fishermen who would launch/recover right on the sandy beaches. To land their fiberglass boats they'd start about 500 ft off the beach, goto full throttle and make it all the way up above the high tide mark. It is possible to do what the game allows you, just that IRL a squad of Marines would want to keep their boat ready just in case they had to head back out. Once the boat is that far up on shore you need to push it back down to the water.

Here are some RL videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UTftGKoMBY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl4rxgisjQM

-=ToD=-KNIFE · Post by **-=ToD=-KNIFE** » 2007-03-26 08:19

Yes what you saw was the Great HMS Ark Royal and yes they figured and yes again they figured a way to Skin it to reduce lag , something about squares, yes they sorted that prob too, no the only other WW2 BF2 mods is that Battlegrounds one.

DJJ-Terror · Post by **DJJ-Terror** » 2007-03-26 10:39

swiftdraw wrote:I'd like to see static destroyers or cruisers (like the American support carrier), and use them as artillery like the land based howitzers. I always thought it was odd the USMC would land troops without sea based fire support.

Yeah, that would be usefull...

causticbeat · Post by **causticbeat** » 2007-03-26 10:43

Liquid_Cow wrote:When I used to fish off of Cape Cod, there were a lot of sport fishermen who would launch/recover right on the sandy beaches. To land their fiberglass boats they'd start about 500 ft off the beach, goto full throttle and make it all the way up above the high tide mark. It is possible to do what the game allows you, just that IRL a squad of Marines would want to keep their boat ready just in case they had to head back out. Once the boat is that far up on shore you need to push it back down to the water.

Here are some RL videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UTftGKoMBY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cl4rxgisjQM

haha, ive seen the same thing in the cape

Jonamo 22 · Post by **Jonamo 22** » 2007-03-26 11:50

i agree that on Gulf of Oman a destroyer or even a frigate (Oliver Hazard Perry class) that is static with a helipad and some .50 cal emplacements along the rails would be neat, and the 8 in forward could be the artillery, so instead of having the artillery on the beach.

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2007-03-28 18:45

ya a ship like that would help the USA get on the beach and force them back!

smitty71 · Post by **smitty71** » 2007-03-28 23:07

Heres a nice boat with 4 gunner positions.

Sea Spectre Patrol Boat MKIV

Raniak · Post by **Raniak** » 2007-03-28 23:09

smitty71 wrote:Heres a nice boat with 4 gunner positions.

It look nice, it's from what mod/game ?

Dr. Litch · Post by **Dr. Litch** » 2007-03-28 23:19

nations at war for Bf2