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Posted: 2007-03-30 09:44
by Bob_Marley
-=ToD=-KNIFE wrote:Hmmm, if thats the Case maybe we should start Posting what we believe should be used, well im a Aircraft Nerd who sits at home reading book about Aviation, The Hind is a Great Helicopter i agree but the MEC would not Use it..
The MEC is a modern Faction, do not think just because they live in the Desert they Buy there AKs El Chepo Style, it would be same for there airforce, no Expense spared, there are better alternatives to the Hind out there, pick One
Now, I'm no aircraft nerd, but there are few if any true alternatives to the Hind. Its a heavy assault helicopter with the capability to transport a section of infantry. Which makes it rather unique and would give the MEC a unique advantage over the other factions, who would have advantages in other areas. And obivosly the MEC should have the very latest version of the Hind, not some Soviet era monkey model.

Posted: 2007-03-30 10:15
by Aljen
Bob_Marley wrote:And obviously the MEC should have the very latest version of the Hind, not some Soviet era monkey model.
That is truth!
So lets arm those T-90s with KONTAKT-5 and SHTORA systems!
;)
j/k

Posted: 2007-03-30 16:17
by Jedimushroom
-=ToD=-KNIFE wrote:Hmmm, if thats the Case maybe we should start Posting what we believe should be used, well im a Aircraft Nerd who sits at home reading book about Aviation, The Hind is a Great Helicopter i agree but the MEC would not Use it..
The MEC is a modern Faction, do not think just because they live in the Desert they Buy there AKs El Chepo Style, it would be same for there airforce, no Expense spared, there are better alternatives to the Hind out there, pick One
There are no better alternatives to the HIND, the HIND pwns your mother. Now stop this heresy or I shall be forced to select a large, sharp, hot metal object and put it wherever I think of first.

Posted: 2007-03-30 16:50
by Lothrian
My first thought would be cold water ... which isnt very intimidating :?

Posted: 2007-03-30 17:34
by TayloR016
-=ToD=-KNIFE wrote:Hmmm, if thats the Case maybe we should start Posting what we believe should be used, well im a Aircraft Nerd who sits at home reading book about Aviation, The Hind is a Great Helicopter i agree but the MEC would not Use it..
The MEC is a modern Faction, do not think just because they live in the Desert they Buy there AKs El Chepo Style, it would be same for there airforce, no Expense spared, there are better alternatives to the Hind out there, pick One
You say they are a modern faction well the seem to be using the mi-28 and mi-17 so how can you cancel out the hind ... as geze sad jack the model from SF which i would like to put on my sig but i don't know how. :P

Posted: 2007-03-30 20:11
by Jedimushroom
Lothrian wrote:My first thought would be cold water ... which isnt very intimidating :?
You would be the official worst torturer in the world.

Posted: 2007-03-30 21:49
by 77SiCaRiO77
Aljen wrote:That is truth!
So lets arm those T-90s with KONTAKT-5 and SHTORA systems!
;)
j/k
actualy , all the t90 has the shtora system integrate , so yeah , its a must if the PR team want REAL tanks .

Posted: 2007-03-31 12:22
by -=ToD=-KNIFE
The Hind is actually a Lumbering, Slow Giant, there are better Attack Helicopters that the MEC would use, take for Example the Ka-50 or Ka-52, those are Perfectly Good Attack Helicopters, plus the Mi-28 is missing its 2 Seats in the Back for Spiecal Forces :-) . Im gonna post a AF list on what PR should use as each Countrys Aircraft so we can discuss:

USA

Air Supriority Fighter : F-15C
Carrier Based Fighter: F/A-18 or F-35C (The C Version is the Navel Version with no STOVL)
Carrier Based Attack Aircraft: Harrier 2
Ground Attack Aircraft: A-10 or F-15E

China
Air Superiority Fighter: J-10 or J-11
Ground attack: Su-30MKIII or J-9
Possible Carrier based Fighter: Su-33

MEC
Air Supriority Fighter: Su-35 or Su-37 or Su-27
Possible Carrier Based Fighter: Su-33
Possible Carrier Based Ground attack: Su-25UPB (Carrier Version of the 25)
Ground Attack: Su-25T or Su-30MKII

UK
Ground Based Fighter: EuroFighter Typhoon
Ground Based Attack: Tornado Gr4
Secodry Ground Attack: Harrier Gr9
Carrier Based Fighter: Under Discussion


Ill post another one later with helicopters for each Side

Posted: 2007-03-31 12:44
by eddie
Knife, replace Harrier GR.9 and "under discussion" with the Joint Strike Aircraft ;)

Posted: 2007-03-31 13:57
by 77SiCaRiO77
HAVOC= attack choopers
HIND= armed transport

the hind will not replace the havoc

Posted: 2007-03-31 14:18
by Lothrian
Hind (Mi-24) went down in Somalia yesterday (no survivors - this is doubly bad as it was a Etheopian chopper ... the people we are meant to be cheering for). I always thought they were built like tanks for the air.

Posted: 2007-03-31 15:06
by Flanker15
I guess you could put the euroTiger attack helicopter in there somewhere?

Posted: 2007-03-31 15:21
by eddie
Why?

Posted: 2007-03-31 16:51
by Bob_Marley
'[R-MOD wrote:eddie']Why?
Becasue deep down we're all massive Golden Eye fans? :p

But seriously, none of the forces currently depicted in PR use the Tiger, so I would say its a no-no.

I dont know how the devs are going to implment the Hind (they've already stated that it will not replace the Havoc), especially since Eggman said "In a way you might not expect" as to the introduction of the Hind. Personally, I'd like it introduced as a heavy assault transport that can carry the pilot, gunner and 1 six man squad of infantry and be heavily armed with rockets, ATGMs, gunpods, etc. It should be rather less than nimble and slightly slower than the BH.

Personally I'd love to see the South African modified "SuperHind" or the very latest Russian version.

Posted: 2007-03-31 17:56
by $kelet0r
Eggman said "In a way you might not expect"

???
I got it! - the Insurgents will repair a downed Soviet chopper and rain death upon the infidels.


Or not lol

Posted: 2007-03-31 19:18
by -=ToD=-KNIFE
So if the F-35 Is gonna be used to replace the Harrier then why did you Bother to Skin a Glorious RAF skin for it then?, but please Discuss on what you think should be each Factiosn Aircraft List, Oh and i posted MEC Navel Suggestions due to the Fact you never know....

Posted: 2007-04-01 00:11
by Longbow*
-=ToD=-KNIFE , SiCaRiO : c'mon , Hind isn't slow , low armored , crappy armed or completely outdated ... his only problem is the size . Even though , Hind pwnz ., btw , Hind is one of the most agile & fast chopers in world .

p/s Soviet troops in Afghanistan gave Mi-24 the name which describes it's role on the battlefield in the best way - "Flying APC"

Posted: 2007-04-01 01:13
by 77SiCaRiO77
i never said that the hind is low armored , its maybe the most armored chooper in the world .