Suicide Jacket

El_Vikingo · Post by **El_Vikingo** » 2007-06-06 22:35

Civies in PR can't pickup kits...

MichSt-Spartan · Post by **MichSt-Spartan** » 2007-06-06 22:35

youm0nt wrote:Yes, I'm tired of seeing people typing that in the chat but I've never heard anyone verbally say it on VOIP. It's funny because half the people who say it don't even know what it means...

It means "God is great."

Silentk · Post by **Silentk** » 2007-06-06 22:45

It could be another kit with just a c4 remote a their jacket full of c4 but have the jacket black and baggy and allow the usmc or whoever to kill them

BlackwaterEddie · Post by **BlackwaterEddie** » 2007-06-06 22:49

But then youd have to rely on lag....the Americans wouldnt have a chance.

[LTC] Gunther.S [4SFG] · Post by **[LTC] Gunther.S [4SFG]** » 2007-06-06 22:50

El_Vikingo wrote:Civies in PR can't pickup kits...

lol no offense, but you have got some bad excuses not to have this in the game.

Duhh, that could be changed. This is a suggestion section, not to mention it is still beta that civs cant pickup kits...

causticbeat · Post by **causticbeat** » 2007-06-07 00:59

I like the idea. Make it the only kit the civ can pick up with out dying, and make the only weapon choice a detonater, so he would always have that in hand (making him distinguishable from a civ)

SevenOfDiamonds · Post by **SevenOfDiamonds** » 2007-06-07 01:29

El_Vikingo wrote:Civies in PR can't pickup kits...

t doesnt have to be a civi but when the person picks up the kit they get the same features as a civi. But have what looks like suspenders. to give them a difference in looks but not a total change because then it would be useless because when the soldier sees the man in black or whatever he'll shoot but it it ressembles a civi they will check and wait.

And most of the time that suicide jackets are used ...their is NO warning, there are no distinction between civilians and suicide bombers so why should there be a visible difference besides a detenator?

Besides people will shoot more civis ... which is happening all the time now anyway

BlackwaterEddie · Post by **BlackwaterEddie** » 2007-06-07 09:00

Or just have them holding a detonator, youll have to rely on your snipers and marksmen to see targets not carrying rocks.

808-SLUGGO · Post by **808-SLUGGO** » 2007-06-07 09:05

mmm yep sounds good to me.. cept how much radious damage we talkn here? suicide vest=2 c4?

BlackwaterEddie · Post by **BlackwaterEddie** » 2007-06-07 09:08

15-20m?

Darkpowder · Post by **Darkpowder** » 2007-06-07 10:20

Personally the inclusion of this would be glorifying suicide attacks which certainly isn't allowed in vids for PR.

If you want to blow yourself up run up to a vehicle with c4 and detonate it.

Or drop a grenade at your feet if equipped.

Civvies with those kits would ruin the balance of the insurgency capture with knife game mode.

JKRMAUI · Post by **JKRMAUI** » 2007-06-07 10:33

Just make it a a rare pick up kit. Thats all. maybe 1 or 2 on the whole map with a long Respawn. It would be just one of those things to make the map more "In depth" Not waves of crazy civs with bombs. But the fear that any civ could be walking death. I personally think it would be fine. Nothing but an interesting game aspect.

Once the civ picks up the kit he is a combatant, no penalties if shot.

He should look just like a civ with some minor skin changes. So you can tell them apart, you just have to be looking closely...and close....

Long Bow · Post by **Long Bow** » 2007-06-07 14:03

Im really not behind this idea. The current insurgency mode is really great, I would hate to see it changed for the worse.

I would have to agree that if this is added they need to appear the same as a normal civilian but have some form of distinction that at a quick glance isn't noticable. As already stated civilians IRL wouldn't run towards a marine who was shooting warning shots at them, hence a suicide bomber would need a slight visual i.d. Second it would have to be a one or two kit per map thing. A very, very rare kit. This would of course prevent it being a spammers delight but also increase the effectiveness of the kit. If you only ever see two suicide bomber attempts over a whole round it will be a surprise when it happens ala RL.

DreadNaught117 · Post by **DreadNaught117** » 2007-06-07 14:12

who ever said war was fair. Plus a suicide kit would allow the insurgents a better chance against the British choppers, IFV's, and better fire power. also it would be more real after all who here hasn't heard of suicide bombers walking into places then blows them self up (that is what i call a smart bomb even if it's a dumb person).

Longbow* · Post by Longbow* » 2007-06-07 14:32

Darkpowder wrote:Personally the inclusion of this would be glorifying suicide attacks which certainly isn't allowed in vids for PR.

If you want to blow yourself up run up to a vehicle with c4 and detonate it.

Or drop a grenade at your feet if equipped.

Civvies with those kits would ruin the balance of the insurgency capture with knife game mode.

Irl civilians blow themself in the crowds and near US\UK outposts ... so why shouldn't this feature be presented in PR ?

Royalwolf · Post by **Royalwolf** » 2007-06-07 15:18

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SevenOfDiamonds · Post by **SevenOfDiamonds** » 2007-06-07 18:05

its not like we saying "when he detonates he screams, "Allah Akaba (whatever)" " Its just like a suicide car but it presents its self with a diffferent sort of awarness to those around you ... just like in real life. You think that soldiers let a civilian walk right up to them and let him chill before being searched? Just check to make sure the civilian is not rigged and let him on. Its not like PR doesn't have suicide bombers already. And having it as a pick up kit it will allow it to be very rare BUT there.

l|Bubba|l · Post by **l|Bubba|l** » 2007-06-07 18:13

How about delay timer for the usage of the detonator like the H-AT in 0.605C?

Not realistic but better for gameplay.

{9thInf}GunnyMeyer · Post by **{9thInf}GunnyMeyer** » 2007-06-07 23:13

The only difference in the models between the civvies and these guys should be maybe a red, blue and yellow wire sticking out of his *** or somthing, so that you could tell. Anything else would be like saying over in Iraq there is a law that if you are going to suicide bomb some ppl you have to wear this outfit so that it is fair. The whole thing about this tactic is unfairness, terror, all that jazz.

[LTC] Gunther.S [4SFG] · Post by **[LTC] Gunther.S [4SFG]** » 2007-06-08 00:29

SevenOfDiamonds wrote:its not like we saying "when he detonates he screams, "Allah Akaba (whatever)" " Its just like a suicide car but it presents its self with a diffferent sort of awarness to those around you ... just like in real life. You think that soldiers let a civilian walk right up to them and let him chill before being searched? Just check to make sure the civilian is not rigged and let him on. Its not like PR doesn't have suicide bombers already. And having it as a pick up kit it will allow it to be very rare BUT there.

Very rare, thats funny because for some reason it seems that IED's and Suicide bombers are more common then firefights.

I mean honestly, what is the big deal guys?(not directed toward you sevenofdiamonds) Someone blowing themselves up? You do realize that when you play this game you are shooting people.. Is that not a big deal? I dont think it is different. A death is a death. Stop censoring ****!!! This is life, deal with it! This does happen! comon, why dont you just hide in a box if you dont want to be exposed to this stuff.

If it is in real life, then it shouldnt be excluded from the game. This mod is for mil-sim players who are into realistic games.

It's unethical ohh no! look man, if you think that it is unethical then you shouldnt be shooting insurgs, yanks, brits, or chinese.

I hope this didnt offend anyone, or take it over the line. I just dont like what is becoming of this world with censorships and denying of the truth. And we let it happen. I shall discontinue now sorry.